Yesterday the main freeway to San Diego was shut down for around 4 hours. A plane made an emergency landing on the freeway. Probably an engine failure. I heard the plane was returning from a scheduled maintenance check. If something went wrong from that check, a mechanic may not be having a good day, if that's the reason. Working on our tractors if the motor quits it's no big deal. Just get off and find the problem. Stan
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connor9988
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- Location
- Central Iowa
Not that I have a whopping amount of flight time but you should always be looking for potential landing spots and you should keep up on practice with engine-out landings.
I want to get more rough field landings done but just haven't gotten that far yet.
I want to get more rough field landings done but just haven't gotten that far yet.
Bob Bancroft
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- Location
- Aurora NY
Much easier said than done. A guy I had met crashed his souped up Bonanza in a wide open pasture in the midwest, killing his wife and himself. Conditions were such that he should have been able to glide in easily. He had an engine out, on a beautiful day, but apparently couldn't handle it, mentally.
Maybe a benefit for me, I learned to fly off a grass strip, and have my own grass strip. I assume that most, who have done their flying from asphalt, would have a mental challenge just to think about landing in a field. And, of course, there are many places where a spot sufficient to get set down in just don't exist.
Maybe a benefit for me, I learned to fly off a grass strip, and have my own grass strip. I assume that most, who have done their flying from asphalt, would have a mental challenge just to think about landing in a field. And, of course, there are many places where a spot sufficient to get set down in just don't exist.
Turkeyfoot
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Aw yes, the late great Thomas Dwight Edisonhower: famous inventor-general-politician.
That's why I don't go to those 'emergency power out' training classes anymore. When my engine blew up there was no 'sufficient' place to land and I found that survival instinct took over making me believe in solutions that, after the fact, I realized simply didn't exist. I came out alright simply by pure luck.
My son learned to fly on a grass strip in a Piper Cub (I would have it no other way) when he was 16 years old and he was scheduled for his first cross country flight when he suddenly realized that the airports enroute all had hard surfaced runways. He said 'Dad, what's it like to land on a hard surfaced runway'? I told him to expect the hard surfaced runways to be longer, smoother and a whole lot narrower. The runway he learned to fly from was 2000' long and 200' wide. We still joke about it. He's 49 now.
DoubleO7
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- Location
- Crystal River, FL
Usually there is no time to get traffic stopped for an emergency landing.
The pilot has to hope he can drop in an open spot and roll with the traffic.
DMartin9N-2N
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Good afternoon, 37 chief and all: On a similar topic, a few months ago a crop duster needed to make a landing in a 2-lane highway. It turned out pretty good for something totally unplanned, he was doing ok until he came to a small power line that ran ACROSS the highway to a residence (the main lines run parallel to the highway). When I went by there, the highway patrol was flagging traffic, a wrecker was on the scene. The pilot was able to walk away, I heard later. I don't know if he is still dusting crops....
Dennis M. in W. Tenn.
Dennis M. in W. Tenn.
I was reading a newspaper clipping on the wall in a small airport years ago near Albany NY. When someone asked another guy there about it. Turned out it was him. Short version. Mechanical failure, he found a space in traffic on I797 and landed. Said he really wanted to find an exit and get the heck off the highway but no luck. Turned out okay but engine was toast.
Goose
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Form another angle, I read an article in an aviation magazine written by a fellow who had a heart attack while flying a Cessna by himself.
He lived 80 or 90 miles south of Indianapolis and was flying to the Indianapolis airport to pick up his brother. He was about half way there when the pain from the heart attack hit him, and he recognized it for what it was.
He said his first thought was to get back on the ground as fast as he could. Then the pain eased off and his second thought was when he did get back on the ground it had better be near medical facilities.
He hung on to Indianapolis. He'd radioed ahead and an ambulance was waiting for him when he taxied clear of the runway. His brother was there, and he said he remembered giving the keys to the airplane to his brother and telling him to take care of it. They loaded him into the ambulance, and he said the last thing he remembered before he passed out was a cute blond EMT screaming at the driver, Hit it! This is a real heart attack!
The doctors found a 95% blockage in one artery and put a stent in it. The fellow said 30 days later a flight surgeon cleared him to fly again.
He lived 80 or 90 miles south of Indianapolis and was flying to the Indianapolis airport to pick up his brother. He was about half way there when the pain from the heart attack hit him, and he recognized it for what it was.
He said his first thought was to get back on the ground as fast as he could. Then the pain eased off and his second thought was when he did get back on the ground it had better be near medical facilities.
He hung on to Indianapolis. He'd radioed ahead and an ambulance was waiting for him when he taxied clear of the runway. His brother was there, and he said he remembered giving the keys to the airplane to his brother and telling him to take care of it. They loaded him into the ambulance, and he said the last thing he remembered before he passed out was a cute blond EMT screaming at the driver, Hit it! This is a real heart attack!
The doctors found a 95% blockage in one artery and put a stent in it. The fellow said 30 days later a flight surgeon cleared him to fly again.
john in la
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From a news story I read.....
Tuesdays landing marked at least the fourth time in the past three years that pilots have made emergency landings on San Diego County freeways
Tuesdays landing marked at least the fourth time in the past three years that pilots have made emergency landings on San Diego County freeways
Tom OConnor
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After over 7,000 hours of instrument flight experience l only had one time when I had to use an off airport landing. 15 miles northwest of Pontiac, Michigan a broken exhaust valve split a piston in a Cessna Centurion. You learn real fast that you use the best place available. About forty stitches in my face and a broken cheek bone, two days in the hospital later I was as good as new. A small clearing in the woods provided enough clearance to keep from tearing off the wings which were carying nearly a hundred gallons of aviation fuel and soft ground stopped the forward motion in about fifty feet.
Lost a good friend who hit a guide line supporting a communication tower .he was flying an ag-cat by-wing crop duster . He Never had a chance,the cable he hit about took his head off .the plane ended up between the east and west bound lanes of i-10 luckily not hitting any vehicles
I had to put one down years ago as well....was doing a survey at 500 feet, low power setting on a cold humid day. Should have known better and had carb heat on all the time. Carb iced, engine quit, a Cessna 150 has a power off descent rate of 400 feet per minute.Luckily, I was over flat farmland, and landed without incident in a hay field that was smoother than the grass strip at the airport. Airport manager came out and flew it back home.
Ben
Ben
About 3 weeks ago the Mich Air Guard landed four A-10 Thunderbolts on a highway that had been closed by the Mich DOT. This was a training exercise for the pilots to experience landing on something smaller than an airport runway. An A-10 lands at about 130 - 140 knots and needs about 7,000 - 7,500 foot landing roll out. These planes all have outboard air deflection brakes on the wings so possibly they landed in shorter than 7,000 ft distance. There were 2 power poles off the highway the pilots had to avoid . All the planes made it safely then turned around and took off on the same highway. This was near Alpena, Michigan. There are lots of videos of the landings on you tube.
Stephen Newell
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I can't see how they can do it. I live near Dallas and the highways any time of the day or night are extremely congested with cars.
showcrop
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Well, who has legal right of way? I know that if I saw a plane coming down I would do whatever I could to help him get down safely, but there are a couple of YT posters who insist that anyone who is supposed to yield to them must yield and they will not slow down or speed up to help someone merge in. Their help is limited strictly to their horns.
Geo-TH,In
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65 years ago my dad hired a crop duster. The plane used US 39, next to the field, to land the plane on to fill up the corp duster. They had a men at the end of the row hold a flag for crop duster to know where to flay. The pilot told one of the flag man to make sure he accurately counts the number of rows to flag or he would buzz him with the crop duster.
So using a highway as a landing strip goes back to when I was a kid.
So using a highway as a landing strip goes back to when I was a kid.
Dune Country
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When Dwight proposed the interstate system during the cold war. there had to be a mile straight strech in every 20 miles to use as a runway.
A pain for the engineers and added 1000's of unneeded miles.
A pain for the engineers and added 1000's of unneeded miles.
Many years ago a Cessna landed on the upper level of the George Washington bridge. Pilot and one passenger were flying down the Hudson River when the engine quit. Pilot told passenger that they would be landing in the water. Passenger told pilot that he couldn't swim. Pilot elected to land on bridge. No injuries but if I recollect a wingtip did clip a truck.
Back in the 50s, the Army solution to a single engine airplane engine failure at night was to bail out. Everyone on board wore a parachute. Army captain over Iowa at night in an L19 (Bird Dog) had an engine failure. He trimmed the airplane up, deployed the flaps and bailed out. No injuries. Found airplane later in a cornfield with minimal damage. It had landed itself.
buickanddeere
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. We had flown back to base from moose camp on an Otter powered with a P&W 1340 .
Next trip while taking off. They figure the old swine floated a valve and knocked a chunk of cylinder head off . She kept running on the other 8 cylinders but the oil kept smearing up the windshield .
I had 121.500 AM programmed
Into the scanner and we heard the whole thing .
It was northern Ontario so there is anything from a mud puddle to a lake every 1/2 a mile at most .
Pilot landed ok but had to spend the night in the airplane .
They helicoptered in a fresh engine and changed on the shoreline . We liked flying with that pilot .
He was smooth and cool dude but we did not realize how smooth and how cool until after the engine failure.
Next trip while taking off. They figure the old swine floated a valve and knocked a chunk of cylinder head off . She kept running on the other 8 cylinders but the oil kept smearing up the windshield .
I had 121.500 AM programmed
Into the scanner and we heard the whole thing .
It was northern Ontario so there is anything from a mud puddle to a lake every 1/2 a mile at most .
Pilot landed ok but had to spend the night in the airplane .
They helicoptered in a fresh engine and changed on the shoreline . We liked flying with that pilot .
He was smooth and cool dude but we did not realize how smooth and how cool until after the engine failure.
T in NE
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- Cambridge, Nebraska
Someone set one down in South Bend on old highway 31 when I was hauling groceries out of Auburn, about 15-20 years ago.
I like watching these air disaster shows. Smoke coming out the AC vents and the pilots are like run the checklist
If I was the co-pilot I'd be channelling my inner Sam Jackson telling the pilot smoke means fire, and we need to start getting this thing down NOW.
I like watching these air disaster shows. Smoke coming out the AC vents and the pilots are like run the checklist
If I was the co-pilot I'd be channelling my inner Sam Jackson telling the pilot smoke means fire, and we need to start getting this thing down NOW.
Several years ago I was returning to my barn from mowing
and I noticed something laying out in my field so I drove over to see what it was
here it was a door from a Air plane it was partly jammed down into the dirt.
So I went back and got my truck and went out and got it.
I called 911 when I got back and ask them what I should do.
They told me that they would call the FAA,
so a few days later I got a call from this lady asking me all about what I found
she told me that there was a report of a plane loosing a door.
It was a plane transporting mail for the USPS, some one from the FAA came and picked it
up .
and I noticed something laying out in my field so I drove over to see what it was
here it was a door from a Air plane it was partly jammed down into the dirt.
So I went back and got my truck and went out and got it.
I called 911 when I got back and ask them what I should do.
They told me that they would call the FAA,
so a few days later I got a call from this lady asking me all about what I found
she told me that there was a report of a plane loosing a door.
It was a plane transporting mail for the USPS, some one from the FAA came and picked it
up .
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