Flat Rerar Tire

JDBRIDER · Jun 25, 2020

I put new rear tires on my John Deere "B" about 4 years ago. Since then I have had both tires go flat because of wrinkles in the tubes. A hole just wares thru the tube on the crease. I put lots of baby powder inside the tires when I mounted them and they still wrinkled. There is only air in the tires. I put new tubes in the tires of the recommended size. How can I solve this problem? Has anyone else had this problem and how did you solve it?
Thanks for any help.

fastfarmall · Jun 25, 2020

About 25 years ago, one of the major tire company's had trouble with the creases leaking on their new tubes, i think it was Firestone, they had to change the way they made them, is all i remember about the ordeal!!

showcrop · Jun 25, 2020

Do you have some air in the tube as you are putting it in place? There should be no wrinkles unless the tube is significantly oversized.

jacksun65 · Jun 25, 2020

Been there done that. Now I pay someone $40 to do it and they guarantee it.

ADB-Ia · Jun 25, 2020

My dad taught me 50+ years ago to air a tire up, let the air out, then air it up again. It helps the tube find its place in the tire and eliminates wrinkles. It has worked for me.

rustred · Jun 25, 2020

They cannot wrinkle if they are the correct tube and installed correctly. You need to air them up before slipping the bead over the rim. And Murphy’s soap is the only way to go to seat the beads.

47fivewindow · Jun 25, 2020

That's how I was taught. Air it up, let it out, air it up again. Good luck next time. Now, how to get the wrinkles out of me?

neverfear · Jun 25, 2020

X2 to those that air them up and deflate again to let the tube find it's home. It works.

jal-SD · Jun 25, 2020

Yep, air 'em up and release all air before you put 'em in the tire, after ya get 'em in the tire and before ya get the final bead over the rims lip. Now that ya got it all stuffed in the rim, air it up and release the all air at least one more time. That'll keep the wrinkles out of the tube way better than any thing else you try.

Ken Loewenhagen · Jun 25, 2020

My tire guy puts the tube in the tire while the one side of the tire is on the rim. Then he puts air in the tube, enough so the tube is full and no wrinkles are left but, not so much air that it's hard to work with. Then he mounts the tire and inflates it to the correct pressure. Have never had a problem.

JDBRIDER · Jun 25, 2020

I did that too.

M-MAN · Jun 25, 2020

On a tire that large do it twice.

RusselAZ · Jun 26, 2020

Tire talc is NOT baby powder. Use the correct powder. Tire talc is powdered soapstone and does not break down.

jaoneill · Jun 26, 2020

I was taught that method also, has worked for me for 60 years, give or take.....

showcrop · Jun 26, 2020

(quoted from post at 22:11:06 06/25/20) Tire talc is NOT baby powder. Use the correct powder. Tire talc is powdered soapstone and does not break down.

There is probably not much of anything that will break down without exposure to some air or moisture or sunlight. Kind of a pretty well protected environment.

BarnyardEngineering · Jun 26, 2020

(quoted from post at 15:35:01 06/25/20) My dad taught me 50+ years ago to air a tire up, let the air out, then air it up again. It helps the tube find its place in the tire and eliminates wrinkles. It has worked for me.

This makes no sense. If you let the air out, the tube is going to wrinkle as it deflates.

Only time I have ever let the air out is if the bead didn't seat properly, and I have to start over. When I pinch a tube I know I pinched the tube right away.

jaoneill · Jun 26, 2020

The idea, which always made perfect sense to me, is that letting the air out relaxes the tube and will allow any folds or error in position (stress) to correct themselves before a final tightening in position. Has worked well for me for 60 plus years, worth the few extra minutes it takes if in fact it works.

wilson ind · Jun 26, 2020

Your Barnyard thinking is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ut makes good sense.

rustred · Jun 27, 2020

They cannot wrinkle if they are the correct tube and installed correctly. You need to air them up before slipping the bead over the rim. And Murphy’s soap is the only way to go to seat the beads.

showcrop · Jun 27, 2020

This is a pointless argument! You guys are saying the same thing and the only question is how much is "inflated" and how much is "deflated". I just air the tube up to about a 100th of a pound and put it in place.

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