Hello, i am looking at buying a ford 1975 tractor with pto and 3 point hitch and loader. I want to use it to muck out some muddy areas and moving rock and such. We also have 40 actes we are putting in hay this year. Would ghis tractor be suitable for cutting, raking baleing large round bales and moving them? Any recommendations on what attachments would be compatible for cutting raking and baleing the hay? Any advice would be welcome. thanks
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Janicholson
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Not really big enough for round bales. Small square bales would be fine. Disc mower, or mower conditioner, and a tedder, and the baler. Jim
caterpillar guy
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I suppose it would depend on the size round bales he wants to do. If the 4x4 size would be fine. I have mowed,raked,and baled with a 674 IH. They are about the same size. It was on a 4x4 baler. We usually bale with the 806 mow with the 856 and rake with whatever is available at the time from the H to the 1466.
mikewood869
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Ours seemed to be good. It will move crap around. The 4400 seemed slow (I could barely keep up with a 1950 John Deere A and I don t remember the turf tire size) with turf tires. Ours is a gasser and now is a 4500 with backhoe.
Matt from Oz
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Hi sinjinn05
Had one of these or it may have been the 4500 industrial. Guy I sold it to wanted to farm with it like you. These are industrial tractors so for loader work with 6 forward speeds and the 4 reverse they are great. That is they have 3 forward and 2 reverse in 2 ranges, hope you follow
that. I also do hay and have a Ford 5000 and had a 3000 as well as others with more gears. These tractors have 4 forward gears and 1 reverse in each range and the gears are nearly sequential in speed which makes them a great haying tractor. Your 4400 has the three cylinder engine and will be in the vicinity of 50 PTO
horse power. The biggest negative would be the lack of suitable gears for field work. If you want a loader with high hydraulic capacity to lift and move hay it will do that easily but will be frustrating for field work. Gaers are what you want for hay work to adjust ground speed to windrow conditions
when baling.
Had one of these or it may have been the 4500 industrial. Guy I sold it to wanted to farm with it like you. These are industrial tractors so for loader work with 6 forward speeds and the 4 reverse they are great. That is they have 3 forward and 2 reverse in 2 ranges, hope you follow
that. I also do hay and have a Ford 5000 and had a 3000 as well as others with more gears. These tractors have 4 forward gears and 1 reverse in each range and the gears are nearly sequential in speed which makes them a great haying tractor. Your 4400 has the three cylinder engine and will be in the vicinity of 50 PTO
horse power. The biggest negative would be the lack of suitable gears for field work. If you want a loader with high hydraulic capacity to lift and move hay it will do that easily but will be frustrating for field work. Gaers are what you want for hay work to adjust ground speed to windrow conditions
when baling.
db4600
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Don?t sell it short Jim. Pa bought a 4600 brand new in ?78. It wasn?t a whole lot different than the 4400 which preceded it. It came with a Schwartz loader and loaded many a bushel of poo, pulled the 3-14? Oliver 3pt plow, ran the grinder mixer, blew all the silage, handled our round bale needs, and was the main snow blower/ bucket tractor. It was the main spreader tractor. Unless it was loading the spreader. Then the 2-70 handled that. 17 years of loader work before I took the loader off for clutch work. Dug many a rock with that and also pulled the #18 Oliver combine for a few years. If any one out there comes across a 4600 with the rear of the right fender trimmed, that?s the one.
Ultradog MN
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- Twin Cities
Ford called the 4400 a Utility. Not an
Industrial. Built on the 4000 chassis.
Heavy front end with cast iron pan for
extra strength - much stouter than a
4000 or 4600 - suitable for large
rounds. Shorter wheel base, low profile
- easy mount/dismount.
Might have the 8 speed transmission.
Most likely the 6x4 as Matt described.
Good old tractors. Would do a lot of
useful work.
I had one. Built it out of pieces to
replace my 3000. Didn't like the
steering though. Not crisp enough for my
purposes. Fine with a loader on it
though. Loader makes any tractor wallow
along so steering need not be so
precise. I sold it and built a similar
one with different/better steering.
Photo is the one I sold.
Industrial. Built on the 4000 chassis.
Heavy front end with cast iron pan for
extra strength - much stouter than a
4000 or 4600 - suitable for large
rounds. Shorter wheel base, low profile
- easy mount/dismount.
Might have the 8 speed transmission.
Most likely the 6x4 as Matt described.
Good old tractors. Would do a lot of
useful work.
I had one. Built it out of pieces to
replace my 3000. Didn't like the
steering though. Not crisp enough for my
purposes. Fine with a loader on it
though. Loader makes any tractor wallow
along so steering need not be so
precise. I sold it and built a similar
one with different/better steering.
Photo is the one I sold.
Destroked 450
Well-known Member
- Location
- Harned, Ky
Good advice, we need more info about where he's located and how the tractor is equipped.
That 4400 could have the 6x4 or 8x2 trans, if it has a heavy industrial loader it'll need a lot of rear ballast during loader use.
My 69 Ford 4000 diesel was my only tractor for 10 years and primary tractor for nearly 20 years, it had enough power and just enough weight to handle my Hesston 5545 4x5 round baler and later NH 640 4x5 baler, it does not have enough power to operate my present NH BR7070 making 4x5 rolls.
Due to our hilly ground I never would buy a 3 point hitch disc mower to use on the 4000, I consider a 4000 to be marginal at best for operating a mounted disc mower on good ground.
That said if I could back up and do it all again I'd get a late model 5000 which is now my primary mowing tractor.
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