close friend needs a 14x70 moved 8.25 miles,it sits in pa and would be moved into wv.id say 3 miles in pa,5.25 in wv,all on state roads.have tried to get the local mover to give a price,he refuses to show up whenever scheduled,i live directly across the road from trailer.roughly 30 years ago I was involved in moving 3 trailers about 5 miles each,we used a jd 620,it easily handled the trailers,i still have access to the tr,and have the needed permits in both states,have 13 to 15 days to do the move,and trailer is ready to go now.when I helped move the others 30 yrs ago,it was done on a sunday morning when traffic was at a minimum.so am I crazy for attempting this in todays world ?.we also have NO police in pa here,there are some in wv,but not much in this part of the county....
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I don't think there's any way in the world a 620 would handle that trailer. Last 14x70 I moved,I used the 4040 and I thought sure I'd break the drawbar or tip it over backwards. Years ago I tried to move a 12x50 several miles for a cousin with my Oliver 88 and we ended up going and getting my uncle's 4020.
I move a 10x50 Roycraft Mobile home with a 1950 cyclone B, it was empty, I couldn't pull it forward anywhere but could back it up
a mountain.. Later moved a 14x70 Loaded with a 3255 4wd & only moved it on the owner property 50 yards, it was all that 3255 could do.
No way would I attempt a 14x70 on my 620.
Russ from MN
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- Location
- Bemidji MN
I would hook up the brakes!
rlp in Co.
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If you do, be sure and use a car in front and a car behind and get some walkie talkies. At times you will have to take the whole road and you have to have the escorts tell you when it's safe. You could loose every thing you own if you cause an accident.
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
I wouldn't put myself at that sort of risk and possible liability,plus a tractor just isn't designed to haul something like a mobile home.Guy tried to pull one years ago up the road from
me 'on the sly' it ran off the shoulder on a curve.You'd be surprised how many cops can show up at a scene like that think it cost him pretty good.
me 'on the sly' it ran off the shoulder on a curve.You'd be surprised how many cops can show up at a scene like that think it cost him pretty good.
Last one I moved,the owner told me to turn a corner that I thought was sketchy. I wanted to go to the next corner because I knew it was wider. I turned where he told me to and laid the trailer right over in the ditch. Took out a stop sign in the process. He had to hire a bigger 4wd tractor to get everything out of there,my tractor included.
I have moved them years ago,, using a 4630 and a hitch mounted on the quick hitch,,main issue is when you try to turn the rear wheels are into the corner of the trailer, the 3pt hitch helped with that and the heavy 4630 with a rack of front weights made it work a bit better..no way I would try it with a 620...
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
Worst part is with a tractor you can't see what is going on with where the trailer wheels are going,need a truck with extendable mirrors.
Adirondack case guy
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A 620 is way too small to move that mobil home. The front is way too light, and not near enough braking power. Back in the late 60s I helped move several 12x52-60' trailers in a trailer park with a 520, and it struggled within the trailer park.
Loren
Loren
I moved a 1978 14x70 17 years ago with an IH hydro 186(100hp) and had no problems pulling or stopping it in fact my bale mover with 7 big round bales was a harder pull than the house the only thing there was no wind the day I moved it. I just slapped a slow moving sign on it and went for it on Sunday morning (when any self respected cop should be sleeping) we did have a pickup following with flashers on and for turn signals. But we only had state roads to cross we took all black top county roads. One other note my house was well balanced it had a 5000 lb trailer jack in the hitch and was no problem to Jack up and the drawbar had no issues handing it but this house was old enough it had no drywall it was all paneling making it considerably lighter. The biggest issue I see it the tires if they are questionable I'd have spares along.
kcm.MN
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- NW Minnesota
Hilarious!!
Personally, I never would have tried that with less than a 3/4-ton. ...Well, unless I had a VERY responsible person holding my beer! *lol*
I have moved several 14x70 trailers. I used a JD 4440-4450 with a full rack of weights. I still chain the three point arms to the drawbar to help support it. I had no trouble. I have extendable mirrors on the tractor. I made a bracket and moved them out further. No state highways on county gravel roads. No issues.
A JD 620 will break the drawbar as soon as you take the jack out. It bends the heck out of a JD 4440-4450 drawbar. A 2wd works better because you will be jockeying around corners. Lots of wiggling. LOL
A JD 620 will break the drawbar as soon as you take the jack out. It bends the heck out of a JD 4440-4450 drawbar. A 2wd works better because you will be jockeying around corners. Lots of wiggling. LOL
ditchwitch
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Dont over think it. If you know the tractor will handle it then hook it up and go. Have a couple guys/girls in truck/car in front and behind to help with traffic. A set of radios would be a great help.
My late father-in-law moved one about ten miles in Ingham County (fairly flat country) with the Ford 860 that I now own. I don't recall the exact dimensions of the trailer. We used a lead car and a chase car with radios.
I'm not sure how exactly he got the thing to turn as I'm not sure the front wheels were on the ground more than half the time.
He succeeded, but I still think he was nuts.
I'm not sure how exactly he got the thing to turn as I'm not sure the front wheels were on the ground more than half the time.
He succeeded, but I still think he was nuts.
DoubleO7
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- Location
- Crystal River, FL
You already know you are not wanting to do this move and have your doubts. Doubts on the ability and the legality, the area will be swarming with D.O.T. cops all weekend now, lol.
Your just posting this to maybe get some encouragement to push you into going thru with the task.
How much liability insurance did you have to buy in order to get the permits?
tedregentin
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I moved the 14x70 that my mother in law now lives in on our property with a 2640. No problems, it handled it well.
Ted
Ted
shaun wallace
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I moved the 12x56 with all our stuff in it with 4430 JD about 10 miles 30 years ago. Seen hiway patrol, all he could do was wave. Have moved couple of empty ones with MM 5 star. Chained drawbar up to top link pin. One had front wheels barely touching ground.
1370pwr in ne
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I pulled a 14 by 70 for a friend last November with my case 1370. We moved it 22 miles on gravel roads and 5 miles of state hwy. He had a pilot car ahead and behind. He talked to the sheriff before we started and told him the trailer was for farm purposes. No issues. Most of the time I was in road gear. This 1370 has around 150hp and weighs around 14,500 lbs. I would not use anything much smaller. Just my experience.
Count the axles,each axle means 7000# when it was new(that is what a trailer mover told me). I hooked on to a 14X70 with a 200 AC and it would not lift the hitch(three point adapter) A 1155 MF would barely lift it. I rented a TW something Ford FWA, that moved it at 30mph. We moved one three weeks ago, 15 miles and did it all legal for $1,000.00. It was ready to hook up, and he dropped it on the pad when he got here.
Around here the patrol will wright you up if they get a complaint and people just have to use that cell phone in their pocket.
Around here the patrol will wright you up if they get a complaint and people just have to use that cell phone in their pocket.
Clarence Slydell
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Be sure to take a clear and steady video and then post it.
M-MAN
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- Bostic, NC
No offense but that sounds about as smart as me hooking up a boom pole on my M and attempting to carry a 353 Detroit power unit on skids. Intent on watching the power unit and didn't even notice the front of the tractor until it was two feet off the ground.
I think he writes exam questions for the State of Michigan and is trying to bait us with a trick question. He's getting all kinds of answers about chase cars,permits,walkie talkies and all that stuff from people who glossed right over the part about pulling a 14x70 with a 620. LOL
Pennsylvania? West Virginia? Those hills are so steep you can pick strawberries standing up.
Put your lawyer on speed dial before you roll out.
40 some years ago I moved a 12 X 60 two blocks for my mother, with a JD A. The 2 5/16" ball wouldn't fit in the drawbar hole, so I made an adapter. The adapter extended the hitch point, and as I was letting the trailer down on the ball, it was obvious that the drawbar was gonna break. What to do??? I got the "bright idea" of putting all of the support blocks in the back bedroom of the trailer. That lightened the drawbar enough that the front wheels would stay on the ground, but when I tried to take off it would only pick the front wheels up. What to do??? I got the "bright idea" of getting a heavy relative to ride on the radiator cap, and finally I could get it rolling, but still mostly carrying one front wheel off of the ground. Then I had to pull it through a 13' opening between two buildings. As someone else noted, you can't turn short because your tires will rub the siding. It takes a big circle to make a turn, and the 13' opening had me plumb across the street before the tail got out of the opening. Luckily, the street bordered the railroad ROW, and I could cross the shallow ditch and swing out there to make the turn. It drew a heck of a crowd in our little town. If I had been a good thinker, I could have rented lawn chairs and sold popcorn to the crowd.
To sum up the story - looking back, it was not a "bright idea" to move that trailer with a JD A. If you're bent on trying this, you'll need a heavy relative with a good sense of humor and no dependents.
Put your lawyer on speed dial before you roll out.
40 some years ago I moved a 12 X 60 two blocks for my mother, with a JD A. The 2 5/16" ball wouldn't fit in the drawbar hole, so I made an adapter. The adapter extended the hitch point, and as I was letting the trailer down on the ball, it was obvious that the drawbar was gonna break. What to do??? I got the "bright idea" of putting all of the support blocks in the back bedroom of the trailer. That lightened the drawbar enough that the front wheels would stay on the ground, but when I tried to take off it would only pick the front wheels up. What to do??? I got the "bright idea" of getting a heavy relative to ride on the radiator cap, and finally I could get it rolling, but still mostly carrying one front wheel off of the ground. Then I had to pull it through a 13' opening between two buildings. As someone else noted, you can't turn short because your tires will rub the siding. It takes a big circle to make a turn, and the 13' opening had me plumb across the street before the tail got out of the opening. Luckily, the street bordered the railroad ROW, and I could cross the shallow ditch and swing out there to make the turn. It drew a heck of a crowd in our little town. If I had been a good thinker, I could have rented lawn chairs and sold popcorn to the crowd.
To sum up the story - looking back, it was not a "bright idea" to move that trailer with a JD A. If you're bent on trying this, you'll need a heavy relative with a good sense of humor and no dependents.
1948CaseVAI
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Pay attention to this. Get a professional mover, regardless of how hard it is to make him show up. His insurance will be priceless!!!
On the other hand the simple solution would be to burn it down in place.
pete black
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well i do not know anything about a jd620 or your area, but i do know about 14 ft wide, 70 ft long, keeping the wheels on hard surfaces, traffic with today's attitude and 8.5 miles at a very slow speed. throw in overhead obstacles such as low hanging tree limbs and the overhead power and communication lines crossings. not very pretty or cheap when one is torn down.
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