Brent thoughts for this day.

Brent Zappe · Apr 6, 2018

The topic has nothing to do with a tractor but it is one that has got in my thoughts. I have been on computers since 1995 had learn DOS and watch the windows grow. what I think is sad is guys like me who have what we say a collection of shop books. This to the newer generation would be title as a antique old fashion person. To many time I find younger people referring to what they find on computer for information. Guy's like me should say I am sorry I am use to people having the right information in a shop book in front of them. I forget that I am one of those person who grew up with out the computer on my desk when I was a young kid going to school. Text books and reference books where what you learned to find the answers you needed. I have tried so hard to give the right information on some thing if I do have it. I will even make notation on the books I refer to if you need more information. Understand there are still old guys like me who try to educate my self every day on stuff I want to learn and know. this keeps me from All timers, and other things that come with getting older. Thank you.

in-too-deep · Apr 6, 2018

I'm one of the young guys who's pretty good on a computer and can usually have you the answer in a quick second....BUT....I also LOVE books (reference and non-fiction and a tiny sprinkle of fiction) and have a pretty decent collection. I turn to them all the time when I need an answer. There is room for both kinds of information storage in this world and lifestyle.

Brendon Warren · Apr 6, 2018

I put a box of machinist magazines and books on Craigslist for free the other day and to my surprise a young man came and got them.

SweetFeet · Apr 6, 2018

Brett,

I use the computer a lot... but have a deep love of books. There's just something about actually holding onto one and turning the pages.

Sadly our local school is literally dumping a high percentage of it's library books!! Literally tossing them into a dumpster... to make room for more computers in the library, even though they do have computer lab rooms.

Our teen daughter managed to snag a few nice old books because the librarian is letting students take some (though the school "super" said they ALL go to the dumpster). Sheesh! What are they thinking???

carvel minne farmer · Apr 6, 2018

i'm with you on the books and learning something new every day brent, but i'm definitly not up to your speed on computors :lol: I just got a new hard drive after my old windows 7 hard drive crashed, got an acer with windows 10 at staples, part of the package was a home visit from staples computer tech (super nice young fellow) to get it set up and going, and show me how to get around in windows 10. (he had a lot of patience with an old man) :lol: iv'e been paddling around on my new system, not as bad as I feared it would be! john.

rustyfarmall · Apr 6, 2018

The internet is a great and easy method of finding information on just about anything, but there is also a lot of MIS-information on the internet. If you really need to know the correct info, a printed manual, either an original or a licensed reprint, is the ONLY way to go.

2002sliverado · Apr 6, 2018

I am 52 years old and the better part of the first 13 years of my working years, I did not have to rely heavily on a computer. I, too, started out in the DOS era, and grew into Windows. I remain a bit hesitant on computers and their usage, in some areas I have concerns about. I am not into on-line bill paying, because I still like checks, and I detest automatic payments, but realize we live in an era where some things are necessary. I did a stint in grad school a few years ago and I still wanted to have hardcopy textbooks, rather than on-line books. I, too, will write or highlight in books I have and keep. As I have shared a few times before; I understand why my father, about the time he was 50 to 55, was less embracing of technological advancements and changes.

unc · Apr 6, 2018

I'm in a transition stage with the computer. I love books and manuals, and having a computer is like having the entire "Library of Congress" at home. I have learned to do a few basic things like e-mails and forums, but will not do on-line banking or putting a lot of information on the computer.
I have a real beef with politicians, government services, doctors and businesses that can ONLY be accessed on-line. My elected representatives apparently no longer have telephones- one must have a computer. I like to deal with people in real time. I like to hear their voice, intonation and inflection, and watch their eyes. "On-line" has become a convenient way to ignore people. My current town council may only be addressed through e-mail, or leaving a message at the town office. I had a VERY heated discussion with our mayor over my daring to call him at home. The computer is a great tool, but I fear what it is doing to our social skills. unc

John Deere D · Apr 6, 2018

I spend several months each year in Arizona. May I ask were the top picture was taken?....I like the looks of this area in your picture...

When I turned 40 years of age, the Corporation I was with made us an offer. The Corporation was STRONGLY endorsing that each employee should purchase everything required to have a Computer and printer in their private homes.
The corporation paid for all Computer and associated hardware. Then each employee had a monthly payback removed from their monthly salary.
The Corporation then spent 40 million $$$$ and started bringing the Corporation into the 21 st Century. Then another 75 Million $$$$$.
In 1996,October,30 at 12 Noon, the Corporation Terminated anyone who was refusing to try to learn Computers as per corporations requirements.
I was at an age, learning was fun....Computer savvy was a skill that ensured I retired in my fortieth year.
I now do consulting and gas Turbine Inspections.....Computer used constantly:

Knowledge weighs nothing, so pack lots of it:

Bob....

Harold Hubbard · Apr 6, 2018

Nice to have up to date catalogs online, unless they aren?t. But if you don?t know exactly what you are looking for, nothing beats a real paper catalog that you can pick through, a page at a time. Doesn?t matter what year, make, model, or serial number, the items are just there in black and white, probably with illustrations or photos, and most importantly, a name that you can plug into a search engine. Google doesn?t do well with ? the little black doohickey that bolts to the bottom of the whatsis, that turns the whizzbang?.

moresmoke · Apr 6, 2018

Printed can be great, but you need space for them. When I was working at the Deere dealer I had every manual Deere ever printed, and carried them with me, on 7 CDs. I dont think the whole pile would have fit in a semi. I think Deere has gone to all digital files to be downloaded now. Same as I do with my current job, monthly I download the updates and don't have to carry a pile of paper with me.

And yes, I am even old enough to remember the Timex Sinclair.

John Deere D · Apr 6, 2018

Any Chance of several pics of this beauty?

Bob...

showcrop · Apr 6, 2018

Brent, you are right about preventing Alzheimers. It is well known that reading something that makes you THINK keeps your brain healthy.

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