Moving hay with a hay spear

I have trouble spearing hay.
Ive took our 1466 international and moved some hay 6x6 rolls everytime I try to spear the hay it tries to flip the the rolls on their end.
Ive adjusted the top and no luck.

Ive tried our 674 international and the h farmall and the 1466 international with 4x5 round rolls of hay and cant spear them either.
I thought it was my hay spear. So i went and brought a brand new penator hay spear.

Still no luck what am I doing so wrong
Thanks
 
Line up your spear straight hit the bale at 2-4 mph and tip&lift on the fly. Try aiming for just above dead Center of the bale. Takes practice but you'll master it in no time.
 
Loaded or 3 point? I find tilting tips down slightly helps so when the bale rocks back axis of the spear aligns with the layers of the bale to slide in easier.
 
On a 3 point it really helps if you can get one that floats. If you look at the center link on this one that works really well. Also a tapered sharp spear goes in better.
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I had that problem with a spear I made for the front of the backhoe. 3 prong 2 short on bottom long spear on top. Cut the main spear off welded it on a 6?x6? piece of 1/2 steel plate so I could hold it on the frame with U bolts slid it down to the lowest point which should be just a few inches above the two small tines and spear away. I bet you don?t have another problem with it. It was amazing to me how good it works
 
Make a more dense bale. Remember you can drive a railroad spike in the end of a log but have trouble driving one in an empty cardboard box.
 
Is this spear on a front loader? When feeding, I go ahead and flip them on their end if they won't cooperate. They won't run from you if you spear straight down after they flipped. That also saves anything behind the bale, like fences or interior barn walls.

I hit them on the run in the field, like the other poster said.
 

Have spear level to ground or slightly pointed downwards.

Always spear below center of bale.
 
I have solid mounted spears and never have an issue. It is his bales they are too loose. Good tight bales will spear easier than loose bales. The loose bale will fall over because they usually have to much hay in the middle of the bale and not much on the edges. So the bale really looks like a foot ball not a straight cylinder.
 
I have nice tightly wrapped bales. With a solid mounted spike you have to adjust up or down to compensate for uneven ground. With this style of spike all I do is drop it down and back in. It is so much easier.
 
Sometimes they will stab better in one end than the other you can tell after you?ve moved a few thousand which end Is the best end I usually aim dead center of the core just like a bullseye sometimes you have to feather the 3 point a little to get em to go . Tighter bales deffinatley will stab a lot easier . When we first went to round bales we hauled every bale one at a time . I got good at stabbing bales in 3rd reverse on the 4020 shuttle back to 7th gear and most times the front would come off the ground slam down and to the stack I?d go
 

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