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Adirondack case guy · Nov 25, 2017

I had to stop for gas next to the I90 exit ramp. This truck was pulling onto the excess road Exit 29. The bigger tractor had what I believe to be a tile plow on the back of it. During my travels down the valley, I saw where several Amish farms had recently been tiled.
Loren

big tee · Nov 25, 2017

That's neat-shouldn't they have those special wheels on the stringing cart also?---Tee

muleman51 · Nov 25, 2017

It is interesting how each of the areas interpret the rubber tire, motor usage and vehicles. we do some work over in central Wi and thats the first place I saw the spoked skelaton wheels with the rubber skin. They had wheels like that on skid steers and even zero turn lawn mowers. Couple of places down it was all horses and no electricity. I think they had a engine on a jack shaft in one building.The one sect over there had cars and trucks but they all had to black. Takes all kinds to make the world go round.

Mark-Mi · Nov 25, 2017

Well I'll be. A Amish tiller.
Tile cart on back tractor.

dlbuck · Nov 25, 2017

I think anything with an engine that you can drive has to have those type of wheels.

gtractorfan · Nov 25, 2017

Semi truck should have them too.

Destroked 450 · Nov 25, 2017

Amish in my area can have standard tired skid loaders and tele handlers for their business but only horses and bicycles for transport, portable gensets for power tools but no electricity in buildings. They can have landline phones in businesses but phones must be in boxes outside of their house, they can also have cell phones.

South of here they have a fully automated pallet mill and all of the Amish workers drive their standard tired cab tractors to work. No electricity in houses and no automobiles. They also have cell phones.

DRussell · Nov 25, 2017

I wonder how much traction those would have compared to a rubber tired tractor. Those are flatter at the treat, and I would think they would be heavier than a rubber tire.

Spook · Nov 25, 2017

I’ve run into Mennonite folks who do the old ways also, they are pretty close to Amish, yet different?

travis miranowski · Nov 25, 2017

I often wonder how the amish come up with there ridiculous rules. They cannot use pneumatic tires which were first introduced in the mid 30's but they can use a 10 series Deere tractor made in the late 90's. which contains tons of plastic which wasn't widely used until the 50's. Cell phones but no electricity or running water??

coonie minnie · Nov 25, 2017

Just a guess, but these might be Old Order Mennonites, as they have tractors but with steel wheels. I have seen that more often with with the Old Order Mennonites than Amish.

That said, there is an Amish fellow that does tiling in Southern WI. As there machine has tracks, there is not an issue with the whole tire deal. In his case, you the farmer supply the tractor for the tile cart.

My uncle and cousin had hired him perhaps 15 years ago. It was raining, and my uncle offered the younger Amishman a rain coat. At first he refused, but upon a second offer, he wore the coat. Rubber and yellow it was different than what he was used to! The next rainy day, the fellow asked my uncle if he could borrow the coat again!

coonie minnie · Nov 25, 2017

Odds they hire the transport done. That is the way around the truck...

coonie minnie · Nov 25, 2017

Sounds familar to those around here, but no tractors. There is a family near here that pulls a NH 230 forage chopper with horses- they use an engine on a cart for the PTO. The same PTo cart powers the round
baler...

4520BW · Nov 25, 2017

That's one of those loop holes! The Amish around here d ont believe in rubber...you can tell by all the kids they got!

Pitch · Nov 25, 2017

Quite sure those are Old Order Mennonite. They use a pretty unique buggy also. Seat roof and open aluminum box. The Penn Yan area is chock full of them. Some of those wheels are real works of art.

37chief · Nov 25, 2017

There was a TV show about Amish young people leaving the group, and going off in a different direction. It's hard for someone not brought up in the culture to figure them out. I had no idea about the rubber tires on vehicles. Stan

rrlund · Nov 25, 2017

They look just like the ones the old order Mennonites here run.

jeffcat · Nov 25, 2017

Let me download a few and then I will fill you 8n on what I know.
hose team plow

jeffcat · Nov 25, 2017

Here is another.
field chopping

jeffcat · Nov 25, 2017

Old england
thourgh

jeffcat · Nov 25, 2017

One from Germany. So nice and quiet.
german team

jeffcat · Nov 25, 2017

And lastly ...some big ones.
Belgians

jeffcat · Nov 25, 2017

Ok now. Amish are the most strickt of the two. They have their own churches or Sects. Each has it's own leader and they and elders interput the Bible and they have their own gidelines. So each one is a little different. Horse and buggey only. You have NO idea how much trouble it was to have them carry SMV markers in daytime and running LED lites at night. They power the lites with a car battery from the local hardware store. 5hey exchange them for a charged one. SO SO Many people got killed at night. No powered machinery, etc.etc. The Mennonite ALSO have roughly the same deal but are a bit more free thinking if you want to call it that. Now they will have Diesel power equipment mostly because it doesn't use electricity. Cars and trucks will normaly be black and have all of the chrome work painted over. You must be humble and not vain or flashy. Depending on 5heir sect, some can drive a car but most will hire a driver for work trucks on or to job sites. Some have tractors and some don't. Again it is what sect they belong to. What is really cool is go to a Mennonite machine shop. Every piece of machinery is powered by hydraulics!!!! They have a Diesel engine running out back for power. They also use a lot of hydraulic power chainsaws and such. The other thing is air power tools. Run an air pump with a Diesel. They use 600 gallon or a couple of 250. Oil tanks piped together. You should see what happens when one of those babies lets go at 175psi when the saftey gets stuck. This is as good as my knowlege goes. Have a couele of friends and business people who like to tell ya all of this stuff. It really is incredable to see a big green s....spreader out in a field with a diesel engine on a big front pulling cart with eight huge horses on the front end pulling. The wheels on the tractors they have their own companys who make them. Some of the ones I have looked at are Very nicely made. Again,it has to be with not being vain. Also the can pull like you can't beleave! This is another reason you see so many of the steam tractors at shows are Amish or Mennonite. If you own a Frick or Rumley. Cant remember wich one but i think it is Rumley, tractor they make new almost every blasted part for them. You can build a totally new one if you want to. There are a lot of these guys who still use them. Hope this helped.

wisbaker · Nov 25, 2017

The Amish and Mennonites are both Anabaptists. Anabaptists are an off shoot of Christianity that occurred about the same time as the reformation lead by Martin Luther. The three main sects left are Amish, Mennonite and Hutterite. The major point that differentiated them from Lutherans and other more mainline protestants is the belief that a person need to be of the age where they can make a conscious decision about baptism and make confession of their sins. As far as practice they're all over the map from Amish and Old Order Mennonites to Hutterites who don't eschew the technology but live in communal arrangements to modern and abundant churches and Mennonite communities that if you were to drive through or stop and visit you wouldn't notice anything different or unusual. My Mother-In-Law was raised Mennonite and was from a group that immigrated to the US from Russia feeling the need to leave Russia shortly after Catherine the Great Died as it appeared the new regime wouldn't be content to leave the agreements they had with her stand or allow them practice their religion and farm as they saw fit. As far as farm technology and implements my Wife's Grandfather was the John Deere Dealer in Mountain Lake Minnesota. When the Wife's Uncle passed on the early 2000's we went to the funeral, the Mennonite Church he was a member of was probably a little more abundant the the Lutheran Church we belong to as the Mennonite Pastor was a she. There seems to be some blending of some of the Anabaptists as the last time we were in Mountain Lake and her uncle was still alive he took us out to see a new turkey farm that had been built by Haydyte Mennonites, he had know idea about the tenants of their practices other than they lived communally and all dressed alike in clothing similar to Amish or old order Mennonites.

showcrop · Nov 25, 2017

(quoted from post at 08:59:33 11/25/17) I often wonder how the amish come up with there ridiculous rules. They cannot use pneumatic tires which were first introduced in the mid 30's but they can use a 10 series Deere tractor made in the late 90's. which contains tons of plastic which wasn't widely used until the 50's. Cell phones but no electricity or running water??

Pneumatic tires make it too easy and tempting to go to town and take part in society's evils.

jeffcat · Nov 25, 2017

Just a note. Both of those tractors have their road transports on. Then can run them that way but it also makes them street legal so they can drive down the roads. They take a brand new tire and cut the sidewalls out. Then slip that belt of tire onto the steel rim so it just fits snug if possible. Take a bunch of fender washers and carriage bolts and drill a bunch of holes to mount them. I have also seen them with brandnew lugs too.

Adirondack case guy · Nov 25, 2017

The belting on those wheels was not cut from tractor tires. There were many individual rubber pads fastened to the wheels similar to the rubber pads that bolt to steel tracks on trackhoes and dozers.
Loren

old-9 · Nov 25, 2017

A local paper has a set of steel wheels for a Ford jubilee. If anyone is interested , email open. joe

fixerupper · Nov 25, 2017

(quoted from post at 15:24:02 11/25/17) Ok now. Amish are the most strickt of the two. They have their own churches or Sects. Each has it's own leader and they and elders interput the Bible and they have their own gidelines. So each one is a little different. Horse and buggey only. You have NO idea how much trouble it was to have them carry SMV markers in daytime and running LED lites at night. They power the lites with a car battery from the local hardware store. 5hey exchange them for a charged one. SO SO Many people got killed at night. No powered machinery, etc.etc. The Mennonite ALSO have roughly the same deal but are a bit more free thinking if you want to call it that. Now they will have Diesel power equipment mostly because it doesn't use electricity. Cars and trucks will normaly be black and have all of the chrome work painted over. You must be humble and not vain or flashy. Depending on 5heir sect, some can drive a car but most will hire a driver for work trucks on or to job sites. Some have tractors and some don't. Again it is what sect they belong to. What is really cool is go to a Mennonite machine shop. Every piece of machinery is powered by hydraulics!!!! They have a Diesel engine running out back for power. They also use a lot of hydraulic power chainsaws and such. The other thing is air power tools. Run an air pump with a Diesel. They use 600 gallon or a couple of 250. Oil tanks piped together. You should see what happens when one of those babies lets go at 175psi when the saftey gets stuck. This is as good as my knowlege goes. Have a couele of friends and business people who like to tell ya all of this stuff. It really is incredable to see a big green s....spreader out in a field with a diesel engine on a big front pulling cart with eight huge horses on the front end pulling. The wheels on the tractors they have their own companys who make them. Some of the ones I have looked at are Very nicely made. Again,it has to be with not being vain. Also the can pull like you can't beleave! This is another reason you see so many of the steam tractors at shows are Amish or Mennonite. If you own a Frick or Rumley. Cant remember wich one but i think it is Rumley, tractor they make new almost every blasted part for them. You can build a totally new one if you want to. There are a lot of these guys who still use them. Hope this helped.

I recently read an article about young Amish folks on the net. You know how trustworthy internet articles are don't you? Anyway, this article claimed when Amish kids reach 14 they are allowed to go out into the world to experience what living in the public is like. When they reach 18 they are to make a decision on whether they want to live the Amish way and be confirmed or go modern and leave. This article claimed a very high percentage of these young folks choose to live the Amish way.

I greatly question the validity of this article though. For one thing the article was worded to give the reader the feeling it represented ALL Amish communities. I know better than that. For another thing I doubt if the Amish communities would allow the chance for their young to be possibly indoctrinated by a society with beliefs differing from theirs.

A few years ago I read about part of the history of the Mennonite religion. Mennonite is very, very old, multiple centuries old, and is an offshoot from the Catholic religion. The founder of the Mennonite religion was upset with the catholic religion he belonged to so he went out and started his own. This article also claimed the Amish belief is an offshoot of Mennonite but Amish wasn't founded till the mid-1800's.

I don't claim for all of this to be true but instead I feel it's one slant on the subject.

Steamboat · Nov 26, 2017

"ridiculous rules"..... I thought that we were not supposed to criticize anyone's' religion on this forum. Guess I was wrong!

Bret4207 · Nov 26, 2017

Kinda hypocritical to refer to a sub section of our society as having "ridiculous rules" when you live in a culture that runs on it's own set of ridiculous rules. Theres some old sayings about minding your own business and not judging a person until you walk a mile in their shoes, etc. I think this applies here. Amish and Mennonites are just people, same as Catholics, Baptists, Methodists and Mormons. Same as agnostics, atheists and every other group. There are decent people and idiots in all groups.

Leroy · Nov 26, 2017

Different areas use different buggies. Here in Ohio just east and south of me they have closed buggies. West of me just across Indiana line only open buggies but gas engines on all shop tools. And could not be better people. And buggies are loaded with reflectors, lights and SMV emblems. Never paid atention to Ohio buggies about tags but Indiana buggies have then same as your car. Have to get to area south of me to pick up some machine work I am having done. Complete machine shop run by an engine. One over in Indiana runs his machine shop on a horse power. Then still different one I work with that builds new machinery as well as deals in old machinery uses several arc welders. He has welding work there now for me. In Indiana they are supposed to convert machinery they get on rubber to steel within a year but not followed to strictly. I have hauled them thousands of miles. Several hired a driver to bring them when My Wife passed away. So you know I have to know them very well for them to do that.

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