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The post below got me to thinking.What about the hot rodders,etc. that build/rebuild cars?Will that eliminate that 'hobby'.Government overreach will soon out law anything that has xx number of repaurs or dollars spent on it? Whether it has been wrecked or not? Or a vehicle is simply "too old" or too many miles is unsafe and must be removed from the road? Think about it when we/you say the government needs to "regulate"/mandate.
 
(quoted from post at 12:08:56 10/26/15) The post below got me to thinking.What about the hot rodders,etc. that build/rebuild cars?Will that eliminate that 'hobby'.Government overreach will soon out law anything that has xx number of repaurs or dollars spent on it? Whether it has been wrecked or not? Or a vehicle is simply "too old" or too many miles is unsafe and must be removed from the road? Think about it when we/you say the government needs to "regulate"/mandate.
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Back in the late 70's they tried to do just that using the EPA. What they tried to do was pass a law that would use the year completed on a restoration or build of a hot rod to meet that years EPA standards. That idea got shut down pretty fast.

Rick
 
Delta my post was concerning these cars they "sweep up of the road" and haul away with several dump trucks!!! Ones you would need 3 of to make one. Not a minor fender bender. I understand that alone would total an old car. The exception on old cars is to put antique insurance on it example 1960 caddy $50,000 value. Modern book value on it is the price of scrap. Like anything guess its how its implemented. AND AS I SAID I DON'T FEEL MANY OF THESE WRECKS SHOULD BE REBUILT.
 
Not to say it hasn't happened, but have you ever heard of a SINGLE accident where the faulty repairing of a previously damaged car actually was declared the cause of a later accident?
 
jocco, if they are basket cases like you say, more than likely the salvage is bought for the title and vin tag, then some midnight auto thief re-tags a stolen car with the vin and uses the title from the totaled car. lot of those get sent overseas.
 
Visited Germany a few years ago and stayed with a local family. they told us at that time they had a law if your car had a rust spot larger than a half dollar (certain it was in metric) it had to fixed or junk the car. Did not see the unsafe buckets of rust on the roads that we have,
 
Yep rat rods would be outlawed and say a car like my 1990 Toyota Corolla that was totaled 3 times by the insurance company due to being hit in a parking lot by some some that was the 1st total then wife went in a ditch 2nd total and then the son hit a deer 3rd total. Other then the one head light not closing any more and a dent or 3 nothing wrong with that car. Just another way that they may try to regulate what they should not be regulating.
A lot like the cash for clunkers thing where many cars that where still good got trashed just because the gov wanted to give the car companies a boost.
With car prices at well over $25000 for many cars many people just can not afford a new car even if they wanted one
 
The problem here in New York is the amount of rock salt they put on the roads I have trucks I do not run in the winter and the bodies are fine I have ones I run in the winter and they're just junk. Then throw in the cheap Chinese recycled steel they're using it's a recipe for disaster. I have two trucks in great shape and two trucks rotted out. I have learned a valuable vehicle here you do not use in the wintertime you buy a beater.
 
(quoted from post at 19:21:18 10/26/15) The problem here in New York is the amount of rock salt they put on the roads I have trucks I do not run in the winter and the bodies are fine I have ones I run in the winter and they're just junk. Then throw in the cheap Chinese recycled steel they're using it's a recipe for disaster. I have two trucks in great shape and two trucks rotted out. I have learned a valuable vehicle here you do not use in the wintertime you buy a beater.
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Yep.......and now, the use of magnesium chloride as ice melt has brought the 'rust belt' to the Western states. :twisted:
 

Considering the high price of license plate renewal for the older vehicles here in Colo. I believe that is how 'they' will get non-EPA compliant vehicles off of the road. As an example: I just renewed the tags on my '69 K20 and they were $78! :shock: Even the renewal for a small 2-wheel trailer cost over $50!
I figure Gov. Hickenlooper needs a new bicycle or some such (higher quality 'doobies'?). :twisted:
 
WOW, jocco! That's just AWFUL and ranks right up there with Ford "N" series tractors and high school football as major causes of death!

I hope no friends or family were involved in the instances you have dealt with.
 
I spent a long time on the streets as a policeman in a city of 300,000 and I only recall two wrecks caused by mechanical malfunction, and they were both factory (never rebuilt) throttles that stuck open. Happened to me once on a Plymouth Coronet but I got it stopped.

We had several officers who made nice part-time money rebulding and selling totaled cars in those days.

We have NO emissions rules in Kansas (or I would have to find elsewhere to live as I will not submit) but I do think that the air bags have pretty much dried up the part-time rebuilders, at least the one that I know of.
 
They do have something called TUV in Germany and it stands for the technical inspections that are mandatory every two years. There standards are much higher than ours because they need to be for a society that has no speed limits on their rural freeways.

We don't put that kind of stress on our cars and don't need that standard.
 
The older stuff is ALREADY being forced off the road by the EPA. They do it by forcing the oil companies to discontinue oil that is needed for any motor with flat tappet valves. The older stuff (pre 1985 roughly), must have the zinc in the oil to protect the cams and they are mandating it out. Only a few oils for gas engines still have enough and diesel oils are being reduced too.

They EPA does not want us running this stuff, and they can't outlaw it directly, so they are taking away what we need to keep them running.

While you can muy a zinc additive, it screws up the other blend of additives in the newer oils and creates diffrent problems.

Im not aware of any good alternatives at this time. Mobil! 15w50 is still ok as well as Rotella synthetic 5w40.
 
5 boys died last year, 4 boys died so far this year playing HS football. If you were hurt while on the job, you would be compensated. Why not compensate kids playing football for their permanent injuries?
 
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