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How about the roughest riding tractor? Possibly a small light John Deere rowcrop such as a JD 50 with a single front wheel? The fore-aft rocking is a mini whiplash on every clod of dirt.
 
(quoted from post at 07:27:56 04/18/15) How about the roughest riding tractor? Possibly a small light John Deere rowcrop such as a JD 50 with a single front wheel? The fore-aft rocking is a mini whiplash on every clod of dirt.
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I'd say a B John Deere with narrow front...those two wheels are constantly finding a hole or rut and trying to jerk the steering wheel out of your hands...I'm sure that's why JD developed the roll-o-matic front.
 
Here in the UK it is the Field Marshall with the short wheelbase and the single cylinder horizontal two stroke diesel engine. MJ
 
DC4 was the shortest wheelbase tractor that we had; we called it a "Teddy Roosevelt". However, it was the most reliable tractor that we had at the time. It did a lot more work than the JD G that spent so much time in the shop.
 
John Deere GP on steel with lugs, seconded by a Minnie mo "U". Hated the side steer on the "U" especially plowing, when the tricycle front would get in the furrow it would twist the steering wheel so fast it was best to just let go.
 
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(quoted from post at 07:27:56 04/18/15) How about the roughest riding tractor? Possibly a small light John Deere rowcrop such as a JD 50 with a single front wheel? The fore-aft rocking is a mini whiplash on every clod of dirt.
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I'd say a B John Deere with narrow front...those two wheels are constantly finding a hole or rut and trying to jerk the steering wheel out of your hands...I'm sure that's why JD developed the roll-o-matic front.
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John Deere didn't develop the Roll-o-Matic. The engineer who designed it presented it to IH first and they saw little value in it. He then presented it to Deere and they bit.
 
I much prefer Rolamatic over solid dual tricycle wheels but both have advantages like everything else. Back when we row crop cultivated and there was a vee between the rows the rolamatic front end didn't want to climb the vee one way or the other as bad as a solid tricycle front end. Spend 12 hours a day out there fighting the steering wheel and you will know the difference. Roughest riding newer tractor or older tractor? Roughest riding newer is my 1086 with that forward mounted cab. Once in awhile I'll have the loader off of it and it's then that I'm reminded how much the front end bobbles around transfers it to the cab. Older tractor? All of the row crops are rough on the body. Some of the wheatlands are better. I call my Deere R my 'boulevard cruiser' because it's the nicest riding two banger I have as long as I'm driving in a straight line.
 
John Deere DID NOT DEVELOPE the Roll-a-Matic. A farmer did, built one and put it on his FARMALL B, showed
it to IHC and they did not pick up on the idea. JD did, and JD also approached IH to built the Fast-Hitch
on the backs of green tractors but IH said no.

Funny how everyone complains about their 1086 being such a rough riding tractor, but it's the same
wheelbase and cab forward design as any other IH of the 86-series like the 786, 886, 986, 1486, 1586, H86.
 
roughest I had was a 930 case with that short wheelbase.
the smoothest was the 97 massey with the long wheelbase.
 
(quoted from post at 08:11:24 04/18/15)
(quoted from post at 07:34:06 04/18/15)
(quoted from post at 07:27:56 04/18/15) How about the roughest riding tractor? Possibly a small light John Deere rowcrop such as a JD 50 with a single front wheel? The fore-aft rocking is a mini whiplash on every clod of dirt.
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I'd say a B John Deere with narrow front...those two wheels are constantly finding a hole or rut and trying to jerk the steering wheel out of your hands...I'm sure that's why JD developed the roll-o-matic front.
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John Deere didn't develop the Roll-o-Matic. The engineer who designed it presented it to IH first and they saw little value in it. He then presented it to Deere and they bit.
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My father bought a brand new 4010 with the roll-a-matic. 4 years later he added a 3020 WITHOUT the roll-a-matic. I spent a LOT of time driving both. Absolutely could not tell the difference between the two. One rode as smoothly as the other.
 
I never drove a 90 series Case,but a guy south of me farmed with his boy and the boy bought one new. The old man said he had to keep pulling his underwear out of his armpits because that rough riding thing made his shorts ride up on him.
 
Any short WB will be rougher riding. The roughest riding tractor I've had was a 8N Ford. I was raised on Case tractors. The old 30 series were awkward but the CK models weren't too bad. I had a 1030CK that road much better than the 4020 JD that it replaced. The 90 series Case tractors had 2 WB versions, the short models were rougher riding.
 
Roughest riding tractor I ever drove was an 8000 Ford, if it hadn't been for the cab it would have thrown off disking plowed ground. I was used to a 1066 IH or a 4-150 White when I ran the Ford for a neighbor to help him get corn planted.
 
The 1086 is the only 86 series I can compare to and it's not heavily weighted when the loader is off. I had it sitting beside a 4630 Deere one time, the wheel base was the same on both tractors. The 4630 rode smoother but it was weighted to the hilt and had bigger front tires plus a full rack of front weights. The forward cab transfers more of a pitching motion to the seat. I've sat in there many thousands of hours analyzing it and that's what I came up with.
 
Roughest riding OLD tractor I've driven is a 1936 Massey four wheel drive on steel. All four wheels had lugs. I don't see how any man could survive a day's work on that thing if he was driving on hard ground.
 
That I've personally operated? A mid-40's "bare bones" (hand start, plain NF, solid seat) John Deere A . Not only does it ride rough, but the seating position is poor. Also it vibrates badly.

I have to run it standing up; can tolerate only a few minutes while sitting.
 
Hi Being originally from the u.k I would have to say a ford county equal wheel 4wd that was not ballasted properly. the early forward control models of them are even worse, when they start nodding with the cab right on the front end. my buddy ran both on dump trailers.
I got a 954 county needs weighting right here , when I start using it this year on a 10 ton muck spreader.

I drove a new style front assist axle Belarus in 2000 when they first came out that was rough compared to the old style front assist ones with the springs in the hub turrets, for another option a bit newer.
Regards Robert
 
Bob model A John Deere had a spring on seat channel the from the factory also if it is vibrating the flywheel is out of time or the clutch drive disk may also be out of time
 
I just finished a discing job an hour ago. It has to be my AC Model M crawler. On level ground it isn't bad, but I was doing some ground that floods about every year. Ruts, and holes everywhere. Very rough ride. Stan
 
Worst riding tractor I ever used belonged to Clemson U. A 180 AC. after discing with it one day, I swore I would never sit on it again. And I didn't.
Richard in NW SC
 
I have a little Farmall A around here and I won't drive it anywhere but the barnyard. That thing pitches so badly side to side
that my back nearly goes berserk. The narrow stance and small tires makes it a nightmare. I think the 4440 is a pretty darn
comfortable tractor for its age.
 
WC Allis and B Farmall. I farmed with both, You cannot rake hay with a B fast enough to damage the rake and the B has rear wheels do small they can turn under the neck of the rake,
 
I've never driven one but i'm told them Cat or JD. trac tractors are terrible on the road. Every time you go over an uneven seam in the cement they toss you up. Just like loading a dozer on a beaver
tail trailer. Up, up you go until finally it teeters over.
 
Well, these Case 9-1031s road pretty sweet, But the 9-1032s with the front axle tucked back under them like Oliver did with their 1000-1050-55 series they road rough and when pulling 3pt imps., using draft control, the short WB tractors had to carry a much different weighting configuration.
Loren
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Had a 9400t track john Deere and was terrible on road chattered like crazy and washboard roads or railroad crossings or over a rock in field
you would wonder if the cab was gonna come off but that's just how track tractors are, smooth in field rough on road.
 
When related to the human back, they are ALL rough riders.
Your proximity to the solid rear axle is key.
The quick side to side jerks is what gets my back on the
Farmall Cub that I mow with 2 1/2 hrs a week. Been thinking
of a way to allow the seat stand to move a little but yet
stay relatively straight up. VAC, on the other hand, has enough slop
in the seat support to 'go with the flow'.
 
I will ask. Did you do any first time over disking on rough plowed ground, that is where the roll-a-matic payed for itself. I dought if you have. I have driven both with and without. Now with your overweight tractors it would not be as noticable and with power steering, Now if you compair the A, B or G with or without then you would change your mind. And all other makes in that size range with the dual front wheels would have compaired to the Deere without.
 
If it was jerking and jumping then there was something radically wrong with that tractor, they are a smooth running tractor if in correct shape.
 
My 3000 is fine but just don't put it on the pavement. Anything in High will make you wish you had a seat belt. A good friend had an older 2000 with the old metal pancake seat and spending a day on it doing anything would make you walk funny for a day or two.
 
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