Is a new holland 469 haybine worth fixing?

The tongue broke on my brothers haybine, where it attaches to the machine. He intends to haul it to the scrap yard instead of repairing it. How much does it weigh? He believes that is does not have any value because everyone is buying disc bines. I hate to see him scrapping a machine that some one else would like to have.
SDE

Sure way to find out if someone else would like to have it is advertise it for sale.

That is what I told him. He also wants to scrap the loader from his WD 45 because it does not work anymore. A mechanic told him his pump was just about dead. That sound you just heard, is me still shaking my head on that one.
SDE

Where are you located?

Yes everybody might be buying discbines doesn't mean a sickle is junk sometimes stuff gets to the point it needs scrapped but sometimes its worth fixing to. I don't think a broken tongue would be cause to get rid of it unless a bunch of other stuff is worn out to. I broke a tongue on my new Holland and I scrapped it because it was completely shot sprockets chains and the whole works was just wore out . It was a 12 foot and weight was about 3 tons if I remember

my book shows a weight of 3215# for a 469.
i sold my old 469 that had been in skid row for years for $300 for parts and the buyer was glad to get it. a couple gearboxes and a pto shaft would add up to more than your brother would get for scrap. there are still many 469s being used. they were good machines.

Common problem with NH haybine. Easy repair..Just get a used tonque from the farm machine salvage yard and it bolts right on. Lots of people using haybines yet and they bring about $1600 at farm auctions. Don't junk it. Somebody will want it if only for parts.

I picked up one with a broken tongue and replaced it with one from a 479 I had. If the rest of the machine is in good shape, rollers, wobbler, etc then its worth fixing.

Have a bto here that went to a disk a few years ago, and this spring went back sickle.

A lot of small farms could only use that size machine and no new ones avaible at affordable price if still made. DO NOT JUNK. I look for all the steel wheel hay rakes I can find and just a couple of weeks ago there was one advertised in paper that comes out on wed, got it thursday, called and he had hauled to scrap yard because he did not think it would be wanted by any one as it had a broken wheel hub (so what, big deal, NOT) It was exactly the model That I am mainley looking for and pay $200 for parts machines if I can find them to rebuild and any parts needed are avaible new. Those rakes I rebuild go to the Amish for use. The dealer that gets them sold one this spring that I had just redid the week befor for $830 and was thinking he sold it too cheaply. Sold at least 13 of these steel wheel raks this spring. Anybody within driving distance of west central Ohio, north eastern In. have any of those old rakes setting around you want to get rid off?

Question #1: Are the rubber rolls in decent condition?
Question #2: Does the wobble box work like it should?

If the answers are yes and yes then it would be foolish to scrap it. You could put a salvage tongue in it from a salvage yard. Or do some creative welding to repair the existing damaged portion. That's why scrap iron piles exist on old farmsteads. You can often find enough in an iron pile for free to repair something with a buzzbox stick welder.

Yes lots of bigger farmers have switched to disc mowers and discbines so haybines have dropped some in value, plus many of the earliest haybines are 40 to 50 years old so that alone is going to drop the value. Regardless, they are still not valueless. Lots of small to midsize operations actually prefer the sickle machines as you get cutting and crimping in a single operation. With the sickle based cutter and crimper you can easily perform both functions simultaneously with a 30 to 40 hp tractor. With a disc base cutter and crimper then you need much bigger tractor horsepower as well as a cab in the ideal world to protect the operator safely from flying debris.

Many of the pickiest horse hay customers actually prefer hay cut with a sickle based crimper. These picky customers claim a disc cutter deposits more field dirt on the hay in dry conditions from the fan effect of the high speed twirling discs. (Not saying I agree with this, but if any of you have delt with the picky folks then you know what I mean).

Regrowth studies typically lean towards sickle machines providing slightly faster field regrowth compared to disc mowers in most of the studies I have read.

If your brother wants to use that ole WD in his haying operation then he should perform an economical fix on the ole haybine instead of scrapping it. If he has zero plans to use it, then it would still likely bring slightly more as a parts machine or fixer upper compared to scrap. As scrap you looking at $300 to $325 total or so and he has to haul it. Even if he sells for scrap amount then still better than scrapping it as it will go to a user plus he does not have to haul it in.

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He said that it is a good machine and works good. His son in law thought it would take a day to fix it and my newly retired brother just doesn't feel like working that hard. I think I will call him and ask about placing an ad on Craigslist as a parts machine. I thought he said it was a 1409, but I know that he is wrong about that.
Thank you everyone
Steve

I use a 1469 that I bought for $400 and re-powered it with a chevy V-6! You can put it on craig list and get twice what it will bring in scrap. Valuable parts.

Leroy
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