Tire Reliner

I have a rear tractor tire that keeps going flat, so I had the tire guy come out and he said that the wire was coming out on the inside of the tire and it was poking a hole in the tube. To look at the tire you can"t see anything. Well, I was told that I would have to get a new tire. The bad part about this is the tire is in good shape, like new.
Looking around I found a tire reliner in the Gempler"s catlog. Anybody have an opinion on this product? My tire guy says it"s a waste of money.

called a boot made from old tire thinned out

used them quite often, throw it in there, what have you got to loose?

Its a "Waste of money" 'cause he has a boat payment due that you were going to make for him (or braces for his kid, a Caribbean cruise or trip to Vegas). Boots in tires might work, might not work. How do you use this tractor? How far away from home does it drive? Tires loaded? How big is the hole? Boots are a a "field improvised" "Temporary" solution (A.K.A. "Presidential Solution") that might buy you time. If the tractor stays close to home and isn't worked hard it might buy you a few years or more.

In all fairness to the tire guy it's a temporary solution and how many tire repair places have put boots in to have them fail relatively soon and then they get to do one of the most favorite things a businessman likes to do.....Deal with an irate customer?

We criticize a business or mechanic when all they have is a gold plated solution to what we perceive is a simple problem. We also raise 5 kinds of Heck when we pay money for something then don't feel it worked as well as it should for the money we spent.

If your doing the work by yourself give it a spin. Remember a lot of folks on this site do this for a hobby. Are you one of those? By all means roll your sleeves up and have fun and learn something! Let us know how it comes out.

If your paying the tire guy and loading the tire to boot realize you're rolling the dice and could be out a few hundred bucks. You then get to buy a tire (new or used) and pay the same coin all over (Having fun yet?) Also if you decide to drive it 30 miles from home don't complain if the tire boot fails on you far from home and maybe even on a weekend.

I've seen boots that were neatly installed that look like they were vulcanized in place and appropriate rubber filler/sealer installed on the out side, you can tell it's patched but it looks professional. I've also seen boots that were through bolted on the tire using carriage bolts and that big ugly repair covered on the inside with another boot to prevent the bolt heads from pinching the tube. Ugly but the tractor made it through the summer raking and hauling hay wagons, buy the time winter hit the owner found a nice set of used tires that he installed after cleaning and painting the rims all in a nice warm shop while listening to talk radio and drinking coffee.

As long as the tire isn't rotten you're OK. I bought a pair to try to save a rough pair of 10x 40s. One exploded with so much force it blew a fender right off and dented the seat.

Mount the tire tubeless. Worked for me one time years ago on a 7700 combine.

Depends where the problem is. If it is in the bead area will not work as the reliner stops about 2" from the bead and for wire I think the problem is the bead. Now if it is cracks in sidewall they work well and last for years. The reason most boots fail is if the bad part is 2" long they will put a 4" long boot over it when they should be using a 8" long boot as the cords will be dammaged that cannot be seen and they only just try to cover the visibal dammage, not the underlingy dammage that they cannot see. A 4" boot is only good for a nail type hole, not a break but that 8 or 10" boot costs ten times the 4" so they do not want to spend the extra money to do it right. In their place they work good and will last for years but there are places that they will not work and I think that is what you have as where else would the wire be comming from if not the bead that they do not cover.

we have used tire boots for years ... just a bit of history ... the trucking industry has been and still are using tire boots and liners every time you see a shipping container behind a semi the chassis that carries the container has 8 of them they work just fine if properly installed

It is a18.4 x38 it loaded and it don't see the road I pull a 18 ft disk with it
The tire is 5 yrs old and on the inside you can not fill any bad spot on wire but something is poking small holes in the tube (2small holes) about half way down on the side wall
My guy tire said as the weight of the tractor come around to the bottom of the tire something comes out of the side wall and poke the tube