Allan in NE
Well-known Member
First morning feeding with the new fluid. Sure makes a difference! :>)
Allan
Allan
(quoted from post at 15:15:27 01/04/14) BD,
Have you ever farmed for a living?
Glenn
(quoted from post at 15:34:53 01/04/14) How is your strawman argument going to deny the ruined rims from cacl ?
(quoted from post at 16:46:13 01/04/14) Wheel weights don't require maintenance and don't leak all over the floor. They never get lost when you puncture a tire and they are not toxic to the environment. Wheel weights don't have to be pumped out of the tire for repairs and they have residual value if you ever decide you don't need them. CaCl has no residual value. You'd have to pay me to take it. Wheel weights also don't reduce the tractive effort or ride quality of your tires. Notice that NONE of the tractor manufacturers ever sent a tractor to Nebraska to be drawbar load tested with fluid in the tires. It was always external ballast.
Also don't forget you can remove wheel weights for light duty work to reduce compaction. You can also remove some from one side and apply to the other for in furrow plowing.
Unless you cant find wheel weights for your application its a real no-brainer.
(quoted from post at 17:07:42 01/04/14) I'm either Bubba or Billy Bob and I'm not smart at all; just a semi-literate/uneducated, retired dirt farmer/cattleman.....who did most (or all) of his own engineering, plumbing, roofing, carpentry, mechanicing, welding, wiring, veterinarying, dozer work and many other things that some folks pay to have done for them; ABSOLUTELY no different from most of the other farmers around here. Old John T and others constantly put me down, but I don't take it personal...........
(quoted from post at 18:31:20 01/04/14) Well you make a good argument but most of the industry just dosen,t buy you argument. More than twice the folks fluid the tire vrs cast weights. We offer either on new units sold and over 70% choose fluid.
(quoted from post at 02:05:07 01/05/14) How old are these recommendations from Deere and Michelin? Are they considering a loader tractor? Are they talking about radial tires? I know a dairy farmer that bought a new JD 90HP(about 10 years ago) and hated the radial tires for loader work. His other JD(same size about 2 years older) had bias and he much preferred it for loader work. He bought the tractors new to avoid paying huge ($100,000) income tax. The original post was concerning a tractor 30+ years old with a loader.
(quoted from post at 13:19:00 01/05/14) You make it sound like a tire gauge for fluid costs
hundreds of dollars. If you want to get technical,
fluid has been used successfully in millions of
tires for additional traction and ballast. How can
you argue with facts???
(quoted from post at 16:59:14 01/05/14)
Back in the day they found that fluid in the tires helped reduce wheel hop and gave a better ride because it acts like a shock absorber as it moves around in the tire. Something like Centramatics wheel balancers or using beads in a tire.
We had a new utility tractor that hopped around and acted funny at speed. That first winter we noticed the tires were only about 1/2 filled. Having them filled the rest of the way up took care of the problem.
(quoted from post at 16:03:07 01/05/14) but in reality my cows could care less.
Oh but wait a minute better get out your slide rule
Did I mention my tires run much cooler in the summer with fluid in them.
There must be a correlation between lower operating temperature and extended tire life that should be factored in as well.
(quoted from post at 09:46:07 01/06/14) Hmmm so looks like Deere, Case, Steiger, and Michelin engineers all feel the same way. Guess they must all be wrong cause these guys have been using CaCl for the last 60 years so it must be the best way
(quoted from post at 04:50:41 01/06/14)(quoted from post at 16:03:07 01/05/14) but in reality my cows could care less.
Oh but wait a minute better get out your slide rule
Did I mention my tires run much cooler in the summer with fluid in them.
There must be a correlation between lower operating temperature and extended tire life that should be factored in as well.
Sorry that you continue to feel threatened by somebody with slide rule that haven't been used of any account since the mid 1970's.
The liquid tire generates more btu's of heat energy from rolling friction. The temperature difference is from thermal inertia of the liquid.
Measure the tire temps the next morning and the liquid tire will be warmer than the dry tire.
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