Frankentractors

DeltaRed · Dec 9, 2013

Who has 'Frankentractors'?I have two.Love em,lots more interesting than the same old same old "factory perfect...1944 JD 'A'/IH 'M' wide front end and seat.Reversed F-12/loader.I really like/respect the ingenuity/creativity of the American farmer.Steve (sorry for the double pic)

ShadetreeRet · Dec 10, 2013

Steve, You are so right about the ingenuity of the American farmer! Were it not for this ingenuity, we would likely not have a lot of the modern equipment today. And what amazes me to no end, is the fact that those who invented/developed so much of this equipment did so without computers, without CAD, and all the other modernistical stuff. They did it with just an idea, simple logic, and a pencil and slide rule when needed.
I remember when I was in my late teens, Dad had a VAC Case and wanted a wide front axle, so he used the front axle from an old two-ton Chevy truck and and after careful measurement, had a mounting bracket welded up. When we got everything together, you turned the steering wheel to the right, the wheels turned to the left! Had I only known then, what I know now, it would have been an easy fix, but as it was, Dad deemed the project a failure and continued to use the narrow front end.

DeltaRed · Dec 10, 2013

Yep.'Back in the day' they didnt have a computer to tell them how.They did it with a pencil and paper,or just their brain.Those guys were the true 'geniuses'.

FBH44 · Dec 10, 2013

Thanks, always enjoy yuour stuff. I guess we all do the samething, just not as big a project as you. I think of the 3-point rear carrir I made out of a Bush-Hog, a glvanized substation bracket and a lot of treated oak, the new clutch pedal assembly I almost have ready for the MF, the new frame for Pop"s old locomotive-boiler field-roller, various trailers and wagons, the Farmall H front pull bracket I made out of a Utilities Department sidewalk standoff bracket. List goes on.

Case Nutty 1660 · Dec 10, 2013

here is a CASE "DC" that has had radical changes made as well, it is used most days still saw this on a recent trip
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Moline_guy · Dec 10, 2013

This little case was at a local auction a few years back.

International was at another auction a few years back, ran real nice, brought 1500.

Leroy · Dec 10, 2013

Steve, what I would like to know is how did they put that front end on? The A had a sollid 1 piece casting from the gear at the top to the bearing at the bottom between the wheels and you cut that bottom off then there would be no way to hold the shaft in place. Now an AN the front casting was short with a lower bearing at frame height, (same as tha AW) but the vertical shaft was still full length but with a yoke for the front wheel. It I can see if it was a AN that by cutting that wheel yoke off it could be done but not on an A. The AW would have been an easy conversion just removing the wide front and replacing but why would any one do that as the AW axle would have been as good as the IH axle. Later A had a 2 piece pedistal but they were not made for your model and do not know if the whole pedistal could be replaced with newer style. Just trying to figure it out. The F12 is easy to figure out but not that front end.

J.Wondergem · Dec 10, 2013

Dad had a McCormick 06 that he loaded logs with. He broke the front axle and figured it was too light, so he put an 18000 axle with regular truck tires under it. He found he couldn't steer it with the logs on, so made it hydraulic. Steer it with a hyd. lever, push it right or left, which ever way you wanted to go.

Mike Fitz · Dec 10, 2013

The first Case IH?

oldtanker · Dec 10, 2013

Some of the mods were well done and I think a lot were the work of local mechanics and blacksmiths. Some of the farmer mods I've seen were poorly done to the point of being a down right an accident waiting for a time/place to happen. I'm working on a "farmer engineering" loader bucket now. Things that were supposed to be bolted together some jerk welded. Lots of fun.

Rick

Bob M · Dec 10, 2013

Does this count??

It's assembled from M-H, Chrysler, Ford and who knows what else parts.

DeltaRed · Dec 10, 2013

The one piece pedestal was cut off and a 'bearing holder' was fabricated.The 'fabricator' used a LOT of brass.They did a first class job.The outfit steers easy,has a tight radius just like if it was factory.The conversion was pre 1965 by a local who is long dead.

NY 986 · Dec 10, 2013

I saw a Case 730 with Oliver 4digit fenders and a Ford loader at an auction several years ago. More recently an IH 966 with Case 30 series standard tractor fenders. Many years ago there was a MM GVI? with a Cat 4 cylinder engine in it. A MH 44 with a V 8 Ford engine. Some others including an Oliver 1600 that I just don't remember the details of anymore.

farmerwithmutt · Dec 10, 2013

not tractors but this guy does some amazing things i wonder what his wife finds missing check out argle toy train barn on y tube hey i can pull a calf treat a bloated cow and cuss the mutt but there are limits to thiz guys education

DeltaRed · Dec 10, 2013

4 wheel drive?

Fordfarmer · Dec 10, 2013

I've seen a few. Only ones I have pictures of are a Farmall H with an added wide front and a backhoe at an auction a year or two ago, and a Ford 950 I bought off ebay close to a decade ago now. The 950 had some kind of a truck axle on the front, with a GMC pickup p/s pump. Everything was done so it could be swapped back to original. Can't say that about the Farmall...

JMS/.MN · Dec 10, 2013

Late 70s I reversed an Allis WD loader tractor. Retrofitted a Cummins 855 truck engine into a Case 2470 4WD tractor- adapter plate, stretched frame, new mounts, air and exhaust, etc. Made my own hay conveyors, rock picker. Dad built his own elevators, bale loaders, hand operated side unloading (tipping) silage wagons.

David G · Dec 10, 2013

I am going to try and start my frankentractor MH44 EFI tonight without the choke. I got the pushbutton last night for injector override.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 10, 2013

The rear end started oot as a Cub Cadet garden tractor vith hydro transmission,front vas a gulf cart.

Bill in Colo · Dec 10, 2013

I have seen a lot of F10 farmhands on reversed tractors and trucks but that's the first I've seen narrowed up .
I bought a 41 "m" IH parts 25 years ago with a two ton ford frond end. Prior to my purchase it had a F 10 farmhand mounted and a hydraulic clinder to steer from the hay rack
Bill

4020deereboy · Dec 10, 2013

Here's mine

Moline_guy · Dec 10, 2013

I am sure it was an older Du-al brand front mount loader on the international.

Don L. · Dec 10, 2013

This is LURCH , Frankenstein's cousin.
A 2096 Case High Crop.
Don L.

Royse · Dec 10, 2013

I bought this BN for parts. It had a wide front end added.
I'm not sure what it came off of, but it looked too big for an A.
It is adjusted in as far as it goes in the pictures.
Steering was moved to the outside, lowered and the knuckle
joints welded onto the steering gear box and steering shaft.

Bob M · Dec 10, 2013

(quoted from post at 11:40:22 12/10/13) 4 wheel drive?

Yes indeed!

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