had some fun today. Military duce and a half

old · Jul 21, 2013

Well my friend is moving so I get the fun of driving his Duce and a half to his new farm. But since he needed to also move 2 trailers he has we hook them up. One is a pinle (sp) hitch flat bed that has a another semi type flat bed sitting on top of it. First problem we have it the one on top tries to fall off as we here going up a rough hill. So I stop and use a com-a-long to pull it back in place and then re-chain it down. Get almost all the way to his new place and turn on the road and the one stand leg falls threw the floor of the trailer so I have to re-chain it for the last mile. Top speed was all the way up to 40MPH. Brakes on them trucks is none to good and add the trailers well I am not going to go fast. Friend always calls me for these job because I am a retired truck driver and still have my CDL

David G · Jul 21, 2013

My dad and I did a 12V conversion and added power brakes on one of them about 30 years ago.

old · Jul 21, 2013

This one is a 24 volt set up and is a 1995 give or take a few years. 250 Cummings engine and an automatic transmission. Rough riding and slow

tomtirediron · Jul 21, 2013

Always wanted a duce. It's on my list to spend weekend mudding with one. Always looked like fun!

old · Jul 21, 2013

Ya but if and when you get one stuck you have something that takes a good bit to get back out. I too would like one but I want one with 10 tires and standard transmission and a winch in the front

Anonymous-0 · Jul 21, 2013

They are fun to drive, I was the Lube Technician at a local sand mine and the grease truck was a duce and a half, 93 model re-powered with a c-7 cat for emission standards to go under ground. I never understood how MSHA allowed it with a canvas top and all the rock falls! The down side is the axles are to weak, I replaced two when I was there for a year. With a 700 gallon fuel tank and 4-100 gallon oil drums and a diesel powered compressor, it weighed 35000 pounds, duals on the back axles trying to go through sand was hard a little hard on it. But it sure was a fun job! Tom

keh · Jul 21, 2013

That's new. The last one I drove in the National Guard was an early 50's GMC with the big gas 6 cylinder and a Hydramatic transmission. I don't remember the brakes being weak. Had waterproof ignition. It was rated at 2 1/2 tons for cross country carrying but I think the overload rating was 5 tons.

KEH

picassomcp · Jul 21, 2013

I saw a deuce and a half in a parade this weekend, my father in law (Vietnam vet) mentioned that the deuce and half's in Vietnam were multi-fuel. They could run on most anything he said. Diesel was recommended, but kerosene, gas, whatever, just dump it in. I didn't know that.

OldFarmTractor · Jul 21, 2013

I am planning on getting one in the near future. The Feds are constantly selling them at online auctions.

oldtanker · Jul 21, 2013

(quoted from post at 18:37:24 07/21/13) I saw a deuce and a half in a parade this weekend, my father in law (Vietnam vet) mentioned that the deuce and half's in Vietnam were multi-fuel. They could run on most anything he said. Diesel was recommended, but kerosene, gas, whatever, just dump it in. I didn't know that.

Yea some deuce and a half's were a multi fuel engine models. They did run well on anything except diesel but they would run.

2 1/2 ton off road, 5 ton on road was the official load cap. I don't know of any active units that had them past the early 90s. When they started the peace dividend draw downs they got rid of the 2 1/2 tons and issued 5 tons in their place. The "new" 5 ton was a Cummins with an Allison tranny. Basically they took the 5 tons from the units closing down and reissued them to the units staying. They cut the Army from 800,000 to 400,000. They had more 5 tons than they needed and the 2 1/2 fleet was getting pretty old. Army only ran those things about 25,000 miles between total rebuild. Tracked vehicles like tanks and APC's got rebuild at 5k miles.

Rick

504-1 · Jul 21, 2013

Rich, Do you know you have to register your Physical card with the state or loose your CDL? I just got mine done last Thursday.

Paul from MI · Jul 21, 2013

The last of the 2-1/2 tons have been auctioned off, but there's still quite a few around in private hands. The original multi-fuel instructions told how much oil and where to drain it from to mix with gasoline if it was needed to run on gas.

Wheat Farmer · Jul 21, 2013

yep we had them in Viet nam. They said if we ran out of fuel and was taking fire we could dump a fifth of whiskey in it and go. We said we would have to think about that. Ha Ha They Were Reo's the ones before that were GMC.

old · Jul 21, 2013

What physical card. I still have the CDL but have not taken a Physical in years. No one yet has said any thing about it so I will not say any thing to them either. Of course Missouri maybe different. Plus since I do not drive over the road any more and only do private stuff I may get by

old · Jul 21, 2013

Reo's or Diamond Reo's?? If past say 1960 they would have been Diamond Reos since Diamond-T had bought them out some time around then

Anonymous-0 · Jul 21, 2013

Rick, Speaking of drawdowns, the Army is about to go from 45 combat brigades to 33. The Marines are likely to lose 1 of its 3 active divisions. Kinda scares me.

old · Jul 21, 2013

Ya there is a web site you can go to and find all sorts of them. If I typed it in right that is one of many
Goverment liquidations

old-9 · Jul 22, 2013

For those of you that like the old 2&1/2's.
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El Toro · Jul 22, 2013

We tested those trucks at Aberdeen Proving Ground
we even ran drawbar pull on three different fuels.
Gas was the worst. Germany outlawed those trucks
due to their excessive smoking. Hal

25twin · Jul 22, 2013

Old,
I have a Missouri CDL also and got a card in the mail a couple weeks ago. To keep our CDL we.re going to have to have a medical card or they are going to downgrade your license. There is a class of exemptions that includes school busses and a few things. I don"t think whether you are currently driving otr or not enters into it. Better check it out.

old · Jul 22, 2013

I have till I think 2018 to renew it so I'll wait till then and maybe even fall through the cracks LOL. Don't really need it for any thing but still would prefer to keep it

old · Jul 22, 2013

Yep the guys in the White house want the U/S. to be caught with there pants down and not ready. My son was one of 7 Sea Bee battalions that where cut. Any one that was E-5 or above stayed in those below got kicked out with a General discharge

GVSII · Jul 22, 2013

(quoted from post at 08:20:58 07/22/13) Yep the guys in the White house want the U/S. to be caught with there pants down and not ready. My son was one of 7 Sea Bee battalions that where cut. Any one that was E-5 or above stayed in those below got kicked out with a General discharge

Old, I'm thinking you meant a honorable discharge
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old · Jul 22, 2013

NO general under honorable conditions. Reason said for that is because they did not go full term of what they had signed up for so only a general discharge under honorable conditions so full benefit with the V.A.

johndeere720GA · Jul 22, 2013

The thing is rated at 2-1/2 or 5 tons depending on terrain. It was loaded with 35,000 pounds or 17-1/2 tons and you say the axles are weak because you replaced two in a year? To me that makes the axles remarkably strong. What am I missing?

Tim Barnes · Jul 22, 2013

(quoted from post at 02:37:24 07/22/13) I saw a deuce and a half in a parade this weekend, my father in law (Vietnam vet) mentioned that the deuce and half's in Vietnam were multi-fuel. They could run on most anything he said. Diesel was recommended, but kerosene, gas, whatever, just dump it in. I didn't know that.

es your f-I-l is correct, they were multi fuel rated. I had a military drivers license and was signed off to operate about everything that was straight, except fire and fuel trucks. The 2&1/2's I drove in Viet Nam (if I recall correctly) were built by Studebaker, probably late Korean War leftovers. We were told to start them on gas and switch to diesel after it warmed up. That didn't take too long in South East Asia.

pete 23 · Jul 22, 2013

All the deuce and a half trucks I worked on were Reo engines and straight stick. The jeeps were flat head , 3/4 was Dodge flat head and the five tons I am not sure of anymore but some IH engines. All were straight stick. When I got back to the states we had the GMC deuce and a half with that automatic but I didn't do much with them.

oldtanker · Jul 23, 2013

(quoted from post at 08:20:58 07/22/13) Yep the guys in the White house want the U/S. to be caught with there pants down and not ready. My son was one of 7 Sea Bee battalions that where cut. Any one that was E-5 or above stayed in those below got kicked out with a General discharge

Old that don't sound right. Supposed to get an honorable if the discharge is through no fault of your own, like a draw down.

Rick

oldtanker · Jul 23, 2013

(quoted from post at 20:44:16 07/21/13) Rick, Speaking of drawdowns, the Army is about to go from 45 combat brigades to 33. The Marines are likely to lose 1 of its 3 active divisions. Kinda scares me.

Scott, yea I don't care for it much. But gotta pay out welfare don't you know.....seems to me when they cut the Army by half in the 90s they claimed that we could fight a 2 fronted war with 400,000. heck we couldn't fight 2 very small 2 fronted war with 400,000. 400,000 sounds like a lot but almost 70% are support, not combat troops. And that's at division level, not total strength. So 400,000 gave us 10 divisions plus a separate BDE. Most divisions are about 28,000 with 8,000 being fighters. So that's 280,000 in divisions and another 120,000 in HQ DA and other supporting activities. About 80,000 are infantry, armor, artillery and Cav. Yea those numbers are kinda scary.

Rick

old · Jul 23, 2013

Ya was not right but 95% of them got in trouble be it real or made up so they could do just that. Son got caught for having a hot plate in is room so that got him a general others got pretty much the same type of thing

GVSII · Jul 23, 2013

(quoted from post at 10:25:10 07/22/13) NO general under honorable conditions. Reason said for that is because they did not go full term of what they had signed up for so only a general discharge under honorable conditions so full benefit with the V.A.

When the blank did that come out.I know an awful lot of troops that were separated 6 months early after a 3 year tour over seas and the milatary didn't want to reasign them for the remaining 6 months of their enlistment.They all received a honerable.

GVSII · Jul 23, 2013

(quoted from post at 22:32:53 07/22/13)

(quoted from post at 20:44:16 07/21/13) Rick, Speaking of drawdowns, the Army is about to go from 45 combat brigades to 33. The Marines are likely to lose 1 of its 3 active divisions. Kinda scares me.

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Scott, yea I don't care for it much. But gotta pay out welfare don't you know.....seems to me when they cut the Army by half in the 90s they claimed that we could fight a 2 fronted war with 400,000. heck we couldn't fight 2 very small 2 fronted war with 400,000. 400,000 sounds like a lot but almost 70% are support, not combat troops. And that's at division level, not total strength. So 400,000 gave us 10 divisions plus a separate BDE. Most divisions are about 28,000 with 8,000 being fighters. So that's 280,000 in divisions and another 120,000 in HQ DA and other supporting activities. About 80,000 are infantry, armor, artillery and Cav. Yea those numbers are kinda scary.

Rick

No one outside the military has any idea of how many in the military are rear echelon mo I mean rear echelon troops.

old · Jul 23, 2013

Well the military if not any thing like it was say 30 years ago. This happened just 2 or so years ago when external_link was down sizing to make budget cuts and the boy had signed up for 6 years and to kick him out they wrote him up for having a hot plate in his room then slapped his hand and gave him a general discharge. Many of his friend had the same problem they found way to slap there hands and kick them out with generals instead of honorable.

Anonymous-0 · Jul 23, 2013

One day they are going to need my beloved 3rd Armoured. And they won't have it. Spearhead!I am to old and stiff to even crawl into a tank!

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