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4010 the 1st production john deere

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i got them all fired up in john deere land,i say
that the 4010 is the first production tractor john
deere ever built,everything before that was an idea
of a tractor built around a 2 cylinder engine,they
got the idea for the 2 cylinder engine,from the
waterloo boy which the bought. oh and buy the way,i
own two,2 clyinder deeres,i love them!
 
I am as die hard Deere as they come and I agree. All of our work horses are green, 4010, 4020, 3020 and a 4430. When it comes to the little chore tractors we have a couple of Farmalls. I like the sound of a 2 cylinder but when it comes to practical use, I"ll back wagons in with my Farmall H any day over a jumpy hand clutch 2 cylinder.
 
Not to mention, my u-joints in the power shaft on my auger wagon last a lot longer without the 2 cylinder on it. LOL
 
yeah,we have a 7700 tractor jd,a 4555 tractor jd,a 9610 combine jd,a 1937 A jd a 1940 B jd but when it comes to small jobs we use our 1951 farmall M
 
(quoted from post at 09:49:19 03/13/13) i got them all fired up in john deere land,i say
that the 4010 is the first production tractor john
deere ever built,everything before that was an idea
of a tractor built around a 2 cylinder engine,they
got the idea for the 2 cylinder engine,from the
waterloo boy which the bought. oh and buy the way,i
own two,2 clyinder deeres,i love them!
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Speaking of firing up you should have spent more time while in school concentrating on your grammar class a little more. :wink:
 
(quoted from post at 11:31:41 03/13/13) is that true about the u-joints or just an old wifes tale? bill
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Back in the 60's to late 80's while I was employed at a JD dealership in sales,parts & service I can't remember u-joint repair kits sales being caused from these purported 2 cyl engine pulsations.
 
I tease my buddy that "John Deere holds the record for building [i:654c4848f0]antique[/i:654c4848f0] tractors longer than anybody else"! He calls mine InterTRASHinals. We get along fine.
 
I don't think this was a big common problem but we
always run the auger wagon at low speed,(just above
idle). New u-joints every 2 years with the 620 and
12 years now without fail on the Farmall H. You
could see the engine pulse in the oats falling from
the spout. With the Farmall it's a nice smooth
stream.
 
I get a kick out of it! I don't have to defend the Farmall. Everyone knows or should know they were the undisputed KING for years and years. John Deere did not even build a general purpose row crop until about 1930. And don't even talk about the C. It was a flop and you know it. But no, The Waterloo Boy engine is not related to the later 2 cylinders. The WB fired opposite each other.
 
My late brother in law and I used to discuss the smooth power of his John Deere D . He said that huge flywheel smoothed out the power just as good as a four cyl. He converted it to gasoline and I put in on our shop dyno. That poor little dyno didn't know what to do. I had to turn the dampner screw on the gauge way down to reduce the pulsations. We ran the exhaust into a squirrel cage fan and when we finished running the fan never ran so smooth with all the crud blown off the fins.
 
So you posted something on the Deere forum that you figured would upset some people and now you jump to another forum to brag about it. Sounds kinda petty to me.
 
When I was a kid my dad got the blacksmith out from town to do some welding-he would bring the pto driven welder with him-The blackmith said he almost would not weld with a two banger JD on the welder-he said you could see every time the JD fired in the welding arc!
 
You know its funny every body says that the 2 cylinders are not smooth running but our 730 Lp running a No. 6 corn sheller with a load on it you can put a shingle nail on its head on the fender and it will not vibrate off the fender this is no bs. I would take a 2 cylinder over a Farmall M any day. at least JD built weight into there tractors unlike Farmall. I can go on and on we never had any drive line problems with anything run by 2 cylinders be it mowers, corn sheller, elevators, square balers, silage wagons, ect. We own a Farmall M too and it is the most worthless tractor I know of. It has 4 1st gears and one gear that is way too fast for pulling anything heavy down the road because it doesnt have enough power, It isnt even any good for raking hay because you cant go fast enough in lower gears and road gear is way too fast. I can go on and on.
 
Only ever sold two old tractors, a super C to make some money on and a JD A because I just about killed myself with a hand clutch and spread a part brakes while unloading it off a trailer. Not really the tractors fault, just didn't seem right in my head how to run it.. Had it for 2 months. How about the smooth power of a 6 cylinder in a 77? Just mixing it up a little. Probably still my all around favorite is my little farmall H. Dyno's at 35, pulls 2-14's easy, about feels like it has power steering and purrs like a kitten.
 
come on kansas, when it comes to tractors, nothing is sacred. i rarely click on something johndear, but i'm glad i did this time.
 
Ya sure those FARMALL M's were no good just out sold those jd things about 5 to 1 your name tells how narrow minded you are looking at this and the best part is the M's would out pull the g everyday of the week.
 
why yes I am narrow minded I prefer to have quality rather than quantity. Thanks for your observation. If a M will out pull a G any day I would like to see that. but I dont care about tractor pulls I look at how many bottoms they will pull.
 
Never have believed in tractor pulls either just drop the plow in ground not in a sand box either and have done it vs a neighbor 3-16s and lets go and you also need to put it in the ground, quality I was once told the only reason jd had 2 cylinders is because there engineers were not could not count any higher.
 
First 4010 diesel I ever say, dealer had at county fair. He was standing a nickel on the hood to demonstrate how smooth it was. He wouldn't do it on the two shotters. Later in life I worked at that dealership and we never ran out of repair jobs. I worked on quite a few two bangers. They have more gears in the reduction gear housings than most modern tractors have in their transmission. Ya, they tear them up also. Sure they make good products. Would not be in bussiness if they did not but they are a long ways from perfect. Not really any different than any of the other brands. It is what you are comfortable with and familiar with. I have seen it both ways, well all ways actually. Trading a Deere for an IH, IH for a Deere, Case for a IH , Case for a Deere, even an Allis and Moline or two. Some like one , others like something different.
 
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