12v conv. 601

I need an inspection of my electrical work I've done so far. Are wires on the terminal block where they are suppose to be? My electrical knowledge is fairly limited. Does the terminal block just makes a juction point for each polarity..(hot wires and ground wires)? I have a new 12v Cole Hersee ignition pilot light. I hooked the ground of the battery and noticed the light is on constant without the turn of the key. Do I need to rewire this to make it a switched power?

The white wire is the ignition coil. yellow on seleniod runs to the ignition starter button switch. Yellow to Red is hot wire for lights. last yellow is ignition hot wire. One red wire is alternator, and the other runs from the starter selenoid (hot) to ammetter, which i don't have, so I ran it to the terminal block. Orange must be another ground wire from the selenoid? Are the ignition key wires okay? The back of the fuel gauge, has ground connection on the bottom (which goes to the fuel sending unit, I think). Is B for battery? What is T? And is the black part a light for guage?

(quoted from post at 19:41:27 01/02/12) I need an inspection of my electrical work I've done so far. Are wires on the terminal block where they are suppose to be? My electrical knowledge is fairly limited. Does the terminal block just makes a juction point for each polarity..(hot wires and ground wires)? I have a new 12v Cole Hersee ignition pilot light. I hooked the ground of the battery and noticed the light is on constant without the turn of the key. Do I need to rewire this to make it a switched power?

The white wire is the ignition coil. yellow on seleniod runs to the ignition starter button switch. Yellow to Red is hot wire for lights. last yellow is ignition hot wire. One red wire is alternator, and i think the other is used for ammetter, which i don't have, so I ran it to the terminal block. Orange must be another ground wire from the selenoid? Are the ignition key wires okay? The back of the fuel gauge, has ground connection on the bottom (which goes to the fuel sending unit, I think). Is B for battery? What is T? And is the black part a light for guage?


supplied wiring diagram

12v one wire diagrams taken from 2 different wedsites

push button ignition wire

fuel gauge

Original 6v wiring

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hat are all those photos? Are you trying to show us before & after or what? Too many diagrams. They are divergent. You can't wire according to all of them. Pick one. Many questions here.

Sorry about all the pictures. Pictures are a thousand words, and I usually get faster replies if I post pictures of what I'm doing. Didn't think they'd be quoted and reposted.

The pictures are of my steering column where the terminal block is located. I posted the previous 6v pictures, so maybe somone might understand how the ignition light was wired. There wasn't an included ignition light with the new 12v wiring harness.

The diagrams are all one wire 12v for 601, just oriented differently. The only difference is there needs to be a inline fuse for lights and sending unit, I have a fuel gauge rather than an ammeter, and I ommited a resitor for the 6v coil, because I put a new 12v coil on. The key code for the wiring on the first diagram is hard to read.

Sorry for the confusion

For me to help you, I need to know what you want to do. You show one diagram with ammeter connected to register only charging current, one to register net current (into & out of battery) and one with no ammeter at all. ????

1) That third wiring diagram is mine. I drew it. Since the picture is not linked to my photo bucket site that makes it a bootlegged copy.

2) It is very hard to really see what you are doing in the pictures because we can not see where the other end of any said wire is hooked and you do not have them labeled. We have to keep scrolling from the picture to your text to see where each wire goes and keep track in our head. Kind of hard for us old grumpy guys.

3) That light. Is it a dash light or a low charge indicator.
Can not be a low charge indicator because you are trying to use the alternator in a one wire setup.
Looks like you have it wired one wire to one side of terminal block and other wire to other side of terminal block. In other words both wires are hooked to +
That makes me think you have real problems.
Also in one picture you have the yellow wire from the key on the left terminal block and then another picture you have this same wire on the right side. How is it now?????


OK lets do it this way. Lets use one picture.



1) Remove the light. Black wire and wire with red tape.
2) Move the yellow wire from the key to the right side.

So now on the right side of terminal block you have.....
Yellow wire to key
Red wire to B on alternator
Red wire to same post the battery + is hooked to on solenoid
Red/Yellow wire to light switch

On the left side of terminal block you have...
Black wire to key
Orange wire to solenoid
White wire to coil +

Tell me what that light is for and I will tell you how to wire it.
Fuel gauge hooks to same place coil is hooked to.
B is battery and T is tank (sending unit) arrow is ground.

One wire alternater with regulater? Get rid of the voltage regulater on the steering column. Both 801 901 I bought they were just used for junction boxes. Look at diagrams and follow. Lot more wires on key side of junction box.

(quoted from post at 21:59:47 01/02/12) 1) That third wiring diagram is mine. I drew it. Since the picture is not linked to my photo bucket site that makes it a bootlegged copy.

2) It is very hard to really see what you are doing in the pictures because we can not see where the other end of any said wire is hooked and you do not have them labeled. We have to keep scrolling from the picture to your text to see where each wire goes and keep track in our head. Kind of hard for us old grumpy guys.

3) That light. Is it a dash light or a low charge indicator.
Can not be a low charge indicator because you are trying to use the alternator in a one wire setup.
Looks like you have it wired one wire to one side of terminal block and other wire to other side of terminal block. In other words both wires are hooked to +
That makes me think you have real problems.
Also in one picture you have the yellow wire from the key on the left terminal block and then another picture you have this same wire on the right side. How is it now?????

1) Remove the light. Black wire and wire with red tape.
2) Move the yellow wire from the key to the right side.

So now on the right side of terminal block you have.....
Yellow wire to key
Red wire to B on alternator
Red wire to same post the battery + is hooked to on solenoid
Red/Yellow wire to light switch

On the left side of terminal block you have...
Black wire to key
Orange wire to solenoid
White wire to coil +

Tell me what that light is for and I will tell you how to wire it.
Fuel gauge hooks to same place coil is hooked to.
B is battery and T is tank (sending unit) arrow is ground.

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I apologize for improperly using your diagram. I should have been more sensitive to copyright law. All remnants of schematics were deleted.
I followed your directions. Light is removed, and key switch yellow wire is on the right side of terminal block. Fired her up and she ran beautifully. Need to hook up Fuel gauge, run wiring for headlights, and hook up ignition light as shown below. It is a switched power light when key is turned, letting you know it good to start. Still haven't figured out what the terminal on back of fuel gauge between B & T is for?

RED lens with chrome bezel ignition light

back of fuel gauge

Do not get me wrong because I was just funning with you. I drew that diagram to help others and was never looking for nothing in return. It amazes me how I can find them all over the internet now and that is OK. Now if someone was to copy it and try and use it as their own work; or even worse try selling it in our out of a made up conversion kit; then yes that would pi$s me off.

You have the tractor running.
So lets move on......

Headlights
Lights are grounded threw the base so you only need one wire. Run this wire from the other side of the light switch to the lights.

Fuel gauge
Run a wire from the left side of the terminal block (where white wire is) to B on fuel gauge. Then a wire from T on fuel gauge to tank sending unit.
I do not know what that center post is for.

That light in the dash is a charge indicator light. It comes on when alt is not charging.
While you are most likely convinced your kit is a one wire unit and you do not need this next step you will most likely be back in a few weeks complaining that your tractor will not start charging till you rev it way up. So I will tell you how to solve the problem now and you can do it or leave it off.
Hook the black wire from the light to the left side of the terminal block where the white wire is. Now hook the red tape wire from the light to the #1 or F post on the alternator.
Now take a new piece of wire and hook one end to the big B post on back of alternator and the other end to the #2 or S post on the alternator.
You can buy the slide in plug that goes to the alternator that makes hooking these wires to #1 and #2 easy and simple at any auto parts store.

Now when you turn on the key the little red light will come on. When the alternator starts charging the light will go off on its own.
Now you can tell if the alternator is working by this light and the alternator works better because you have it wired the way it was designed to work.

Start a new post if you have any more question as this one is getting buried on classic view and I may not see it.