1968 Ford 2000 stuck in 3rd gear after transporting it

Hello all, I'm losing my mind!

Short story. 1 month ago started tractor and it ran fine, but tire on the trailer that the tractor was on had a flat. Repaired the tire went back 2 weeks ago and put tire on and got ready to go to the farm. Tractor would not start. Getting fuel to the sediment bowl, getting fuel to the carb, not getting fuel to the plugs. I transported the tractor to my house to rebuild carb. Rebuilt the carb put it on AND..... The tractor is stuck in 3rd gear. I put the tractor in gear before transporting it home (40 miles). Went into gear easily before bringing it home. Clutch pedal moves, shifter does not budge. If I try to crank it the starter tries to move the tractor forward. I would try to crank the tractor off the trailer, but I have a bushhog on it and the trailing tire of the hog is hanging over the front rail of the trailer.
I does not make sense Transmission worked fine one day and again a week later, then after a 40 mile ride it is locked up. Is transporting in gear a no no? That is how my dad always did it before I inherited it.

I got to get it out of gear to try to start it, I can't lift the bush hog without it running, can't get it off the trailer without the bushhog up.

How do I get it out of gear???????

ANY HELP is Appreciated. I'll try to attach a few pictures

It sounds like the transmission is in a bind. You need to move the tractor either forwards or backwards to relieve the strain on the transmission. Can you move the tractor fore and aft with a come-a-long?

ive had that problem with a case 1494 but the clutch was bad and i parked it in gear and could not get it out so i picked the back of the tractor up to take the strain off. so what im saying is there is a lot of pressure on the trany in that gear. wont the tractor start if you push the clutch in.

Now you know why i NEVER transport a tractor in gear. Vehicles either! Tractors are left in nuetral and brakes set( if they have parking breaks). Cars left in nuetral with parking brake set.

(quoted from post at 21:49:56 07/14/11) It sounds like the transmission is in a bind. You need to move the tractor either forwards or backwards to relieve the strain on the transmission. Can you move the tractor fore and aft with a come-a-long?

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Tried a 2 inch ratchet strap. got it so tight pulling backward that I thought it was going to break. Left it with tension on it over night. did not help. doing it again tonight with the clutch pedal tied down as well. But I do not think it is going to help. I might put a jack under a lug on the front side of a tire to try to rotate the tire backward. I know I can't rotate it but thought that maybe a little pressure on one tire might do something. The weight of the bush hog dragging on the trailer wood is not helping me move.

Thanks for the reply and keep them coming.

Clutch is not engaging (taking it out of gear) therefore I can not start it. Plus the bush hog will stop it from moving and since I just put the carb on I will have to crank it quite a bit to get it going.

Thanks for the reply

Is there ANY way you can disconnect/unhook from the brush hog? IF you are able to do so, that would "free up" the tractor for rocking back/forth in gear, etc.

Good luck...AND BE CAREFUL!!

Rick

(quoted from post at 22:27:04 07/14/11) Is there ANY way you can disconnect/unhook from the brush hog? IF you are able to do so, that would "free up" the tractor for rocking back/forth in gear, etc.

Good luck...AND BE CAREFUL!!

Rick

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I could probable get it unhooked. If I crank it off the trailer and still can not get it out of gear I'll really be screwed because I will not be able to get it back on the trailer to take it to the shop. If I take the top off the gear housing where the gear shifter is can I do anything in there? I took the filler cap off and looked inside but did not try anything in there.

Thanks for the reply

Can't help you, now that it is stuck in gear, but I always transport in 1ST gear, so the tractor can't rock back and forth and get stuck between gears.

Try putting a jack under one side of the rear axle and lift one tire just a bit. You probably want to put a plank or two under the jack so you don't punch a hole in the deck of the trailer - if it is wood.

The Clutch is stuck.

If all else fails, pull the transmission cover plate off (careful - there may a spring loaded detent being held down by the cover - not a big deal, but you don't want to lose anything into the trans).

Study the positions of the forks, and you should see where one is out of place. Use a big screw driver to slide it into neutral position. Put the cover back on and you should be good to go.

I'll bet the PTO is hooked up and in gear and it has set down on the trailer in such a way as to put pressure on the hog's blade. So I think your bind is between the PTO and the tranny. If so, the solution is to jack up the hog to allow its blade to turn, and disconnect its PTO shaft from the tractor. Then I think you will be able to get the tractor out of 3rd gear.

I've had this kind of thing happen with my 8N, and once the PTO is freed, everything works fine. Don't take that tranny cover off until you have tried this first.

Paul in MN

(quoted from post at 13:09:57 07/15/11) I'll bet the PTO is hooked up and in gear and it has set down on the trailer in such a way as to put pressure on the hog's blade. So I think your bind is between the PTO and the tranny. If so, the solution is to jack up the hog to allow its blade to turn, and disconnect its PTO shaft from the tractor. Then I think you will be able to get the tractor out of 3rd gear.

I've had this kind of thing happen with my 8N, and once the PTO is freed, everything works fine. Don't take that tranny cover off until you have tried this first.

Paul in MN

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Thanks but the PTO is free and I can engage and disengage it easily. I tried turning the hog blades and then throwing the lever to engage the PTO to see if it would break anything loose. It did not work. I'm going to jack a wheel up in a few hours. I'll post if it works. My fingers are crossed.

as the others said.. i bet it is binding.

get that hog unhooked and or a rear wheel jacked up like UD said.. get some pressur eoff it. even a comealong to scoot it forward may help.

soundguy

ctford
I believe sixbales is right on this issue!
My 3000 does that when someone else operates it.
The 1st/3rd shift rail slides forward and locks it in two gears, remove the cover and bring both shift rails into alignment and you're good to go.
The proper fix ix to replace the detent springs/balls on the shift rails.
Brian

Thank you all!!!!! I got it out of gear (got tension off the bush hog) and it finally started. When I pushed the clutch in it did not seem to engage, but I got it into 1st gear (with a little grinding) and off the trailer whether I was ready or not. Drove it around the yard doing figure 8's but could not get it out of gear. I tried to take the play out of the clutch but that did not help. So is the clutch plate stuck? If so how do I unstick it?

Have several other issues that I'll post in other threads.

Again thank you all. I inherited this tractor and am learning as I go.

Seems to me that there was one person suggested that might be the problem.

(quoted from post at 04:12:12 07/16/11) Seems to me that there was one person suggested that might be the problem.

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Good one RB :lol:

Thank you all!!!!! I got it out of gear and it finally started. When I pushed the clutch in it did not seem to engage, but I got it into 1st gear (with a little grinding) and off the trailer whether I was ready or not. Drove it around the yard doing figure 8's but could not get it out of gear. I tried to take the play out of the clutch but that did not help. So is the clutch plate stuck? If so how do I unstick it?

Have several other issues that I'll post in other threads.

Again thank you all. I inherited this tractor and am learning as I go.



Update on the clutch. I got the tractor out of gear again by cranking it and moving the shifter at the same time. I shifter goes smoothly into reverse with the tractor turned off, but will not shift into any other gear. Oh, it is a 4 speed I forgot to mention that earlier. Does this bit of info about it moving in and out of reverse mean anything? And can I over adjust the clutch? I've took off and turned the rod that goes to the front from the pedal about as far as it is going to go.


I'm charging the battery and I am going to try to start it again this evening. [b:b6c03ccac1]IF[/b:b6c03ccac1] it starts and [b:b6c03ccac1]IF[/b:b6c03ccac1] I get it in gear is there anything I can do to help free up the clutch?
Also If it is the throw out bearing, what kind of a job am I looking at? What kind of clutch does this tractor have? single or double?

I've been reading a ton of post and my head is swimming from information overload.

Thanks again for all the help.

You have to first resolve your starting problem, because the normal way to resolve a stuck clutch is to start it in gear, get it going, and then push in the clutch all the way and slam on the brakes.

This procedure is detailed in a post "Clutch Release Problems" dated 7/13/2011 by drkstr63. See Ultradog MN"s response.

While you are working on your starting problems, Tie or block the clutch pedal down for an extended period.

When you get your starting problem resolved, DO NOT try the bashing method as was done in the referenced post!! Too dangerous and you might break something.

Got it out of gear, started went to put it in gear and it just grinded gears. Forced it into 1st and off the trailer I went whether I was ready or not. Could not get it out of gear without turning it off and slipping it just before it stopped. Adjusted the clutch, no help. Tied the clutch down and let it sit a week, no help. Started it again , drove it in circles after getting it in gear with the clutch still tied down, while stomping on the left and right brakes, no help. Hooked a chain on it and to my truck and jerked it all over the yard in every gear, still no luck.
A old timer suggested that the yoke to the throw out bearing might be broken. The clutch plate will not come off the wheel.
Looks like I"m going to give in and take it to the shop when I get the money.

Thanks for all the suggestions
Clint