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Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35?

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DaveVT

04-30-2001 18:57:24




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Hi I was wondering if anyone can tell me if a TO-35 will work a loader well? I have a trip bucket loader for it but have gotten conflicting stories on whether it will work well or not.Will I need an auxillary pump or will it operate off the tractor pump? Also, will I be able to operate the rear lift arms when using the loader? Any advice would be appreciated!




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Randy

05-04-2001 15:11:18




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 Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DaveVT, 04-30-2001 18:57:24  
My wife's gr grandfather bought a TO35 new in 1959. Before he ever brought it home, he had the Massey Ferguson No. 32 Utility Loader installed. When we brought the tractor "home" last fall, we took the front end loader off of it, as we are not on the farm now, and the manure forked loader was something we do not expect to use. However, based on the past 40+ years of using it on their farm, it served them well. To operate it, a double acting - double spool valve was installed so there was no loss of 3 point usage. We have the original Manual for the loader and it says it is capable of lifting 2000 lbs at the start of the lift, with the half and full height capabilities at 1500 and 1000 lbs respectively. Like I said, I have recently taken off the loader, and today I took off the double action - double spool valve and put the original plate back on the hydraulic cover. Now, I can't get the position arm to raise the lift. I guess after 40 years of not being used, it probably has a stuck valve. I am working via email with Dean of Kansas to remedy this situation. Hopefully we can get it working soon.

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Bob L

05-02-2001 20:56:11




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 Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DaveVT, 04-30-2001 18:57:24  
sorry about all the replies, just had a case of dum mouse clikking.



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Bobby

05-02-2001 19:26:00




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 Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DaveVT, 04-30-2001 18:57:24  
you can operate the loader off the hyd system but in order to get the three point hitch to work you will need an aux valve. this will replace the small transfer cover on the hitch cover just below the seat. there are several aftermarket valves available but if you contact your dealer he might have a used one. The all out valve that you would like to have fits most TO-35 through 175 tractors equipped with the top cover set up. usually these were pre 1972 although you still could see some real late modles with them

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Barry Reid Stirling Ontario Canada

05-01-2001 07:51:27




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 Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DaveVT, 04-30-2001 18:57:24  
Hi Dave

`I have one of those loader on my Ferguson and it works fine. Its an original loader serial number on the right side. The cylinders that raise and lower the loader are mounted under the tractor to the rear axle. The loader works off the tractor itself. The same arm that raises the 3-piont hitch also works the loader. The cylinders are hooked onto the 3-point hitch. The only problem I find is that you cant mount any other implements onto the 3-point hitch. But other than that it works great, I have moved trees with the loader, but i dont want to push the loader boundries, its pretty flimzzy compared to days loaders, I hope this helps

Barry

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DavePA

05-01-2001 06:59:36




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 Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DaveVT, 04-30-2001 18:57:24  
I have a loader on a TO-30 which is plumbed using the rear hydrolics. It works fine but the clutch must be engaged for the lift to raise. Makes some work hard when trying to work tight spots. I also wanted to mount a front pump but can not find a crank pulley to accept the pump drive shaft. good luck....DavePA also keep in mind, unless mine is hooked up incorrectly, the rear lift also raises with the front bucket.

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Bob L

05-02-2001 20:53:19




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 Re: Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DavePA, 05-01-2001 06:59:36  
I have a TO30 with a sunshine loader. One of the problems that I have is VERY hard steering.You also lose the stock headlight position and must re locate them to an area that does not interfere with the loader. My loader was "enginnered" to take hydraulic power off of the front of the crankshaft.this allows operation independant of the clutched transmission. With all the implements available for the Furguson System a loader is useful , but almost redundant. Just one more thought, a loader puts more strain on the front end bearings especally the axel pivot bearing. As far as safety is concerend ALWAYS carry the bucket as low as possable to keep the center of gravity low to prevent a rollover. MF makes a ROPS kit for these older tractors if it is to be used on a regular basis this is a good investment. Good Luck with your Fergie
Bob L Somerset PA

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Bob L

05-02-2001 20:53:05




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 Re: Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DavePA, 05-01-2001 06:59:36  
I have a TO30 with a sunshine loader. One of the problems that I have is VERY hard steering.You also lose the stock headlight position and must re locate them to an area that does not interfere with the loader. My loader was "enginnered" to take hydraulic power off of the front of the crankshaft.this allows operation independant of the clutched transmission. With all the implements available for the Furguson System a loader is useful , but almost redundant. Just one more thought, a loader puts more strain on the front end bearings especally the axel pivot bearing. As far as safety is concerend ALWAYS carry the bucket as low as possable to keep the center of gravity low to prevent a rollover. MF makes a ROPS kit for these older tractors if it is to be used on a regular basis this is a good investment. Good Luck with your Fergie
Bob L Somerset PA

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Bob L

05-02-2001 20:52:14




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 Re: Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DavePA, 05-01-2001 06:59:36  
I have a TO30 with a sunshine loader. One of the problems that I have is VERY hard steering.You also lose the stock headlight position and must re locate them to an area that does not interfere with the loader. My loader was "enginnered" to take hydraulic power off of the front of the crankshaft.this allows operation independant of the clutched transmission. With all the implements available for the Furguson System a loader is useful , but almost redundant. Just one more thought, a loader puts more strain on the front end bearings especally the axel pivot bearing. As far as safety is concerend ALWAYS carry the bucket as low as possable to keep the center of gravity low to prevent a rollover. MF makes a ROPS kit for these older tractors if it is to be used on a regular basis this is a good investment. Good Luck with your Fergie
Bob L Somerset PA

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Bob L

05-02-2001 20:51:31




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 Re: Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DavePA, 05-01-2001 06:59:36  
I have a TO30 with a sunshine loader. One of the problems that I have is VERY hard steering.You also lose the stock headlight position and must re locate them to an area that does not interfere with the loader. My loader was "enginnered" to take hydraulic power off of the front of the crankshaft.this allows operation independant of the clutched transmission. With all the implements available for the Furguson System a loader is useful , but almost redundant. Just one more thought, a loader puts more strain on the front end bearings especally the axel pivot bearing. As far as safety is concerend ALWAYS carry the bucket as low as possable to keep the center of gravity low to prevent a rollover. MF makes a ROPS kit for these older tractors if it is to be used on a regular basis this is a good investment. Good Luck with your Fergie
Bob L Somerset PA

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Bob L

05-02-2001 20:51:07




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 Re: Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DavePA, 05-01-2001 06:59:36  
I have a TO30 with a sunshine loader. One of the problems that I have is VERY hard steering.You also lose the stock headlight position and must re locate them to an area that does not interfere with the loader. My loader was "enginnered" to take hydraulic power off of the front of the crankshaft.this allows operation independant of the clutched transmission. With all the implements available for the Furguson System a loader is useful , but almost redundant. Just one more thought, a loader puts more strain on the front end bearings especally the axel pivot bearing. As far as safety is concerend ALWAYS carry the bucket as low as possable to keep the center of gravity low to prevent a rollover. MF makes a ROPS kit for these older tractors if it is to be used on a regular basis this is a good investment. Good Luck with your Fergie
Bob L Somerset PA

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Bob L

05-02-2001 20:50:15




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 Re: Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DavePA, 05-01-2001 06:59:36  
I have a TO30 with a sunshine loader. One of the problems that I have is VERY hard steering.You also lose the stock headlight position and must re locate them to an area that does not interfere with the loader. My loader was "enginnered" to take hydraulic power off of the front of the crankshaft.this allows operation independant of the clutched transmission. With all the implements available for the Furguson System a loader is useful , but almost redundant. Just one more thought, a loader puts more strain on the front end bearings especally the axel pivot bearing. As far as safety is concerend ALWAYS carry the bucket as low as possable to keep the center of gravity low to prevent a rollover. MF makes a ROPS kit for these older tractors if it is to be used on a regular basis this is a good investment. Good Luck with your Fergie
Bob L Somerset PA

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Bob L

05-02-2001 20:50:01




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 Re: Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DavePA, 05-01-2001 06:59:36  
I have a TO30 with a sunshine loader. One of the problems that I have is VERY hard steering.You also lose the stock headlight position and must re locate them to an area that does not interfere with the loader. My loader was "enginnered" to take hydraulic power off of the front of the crankshaft.this allows operation independant of the clutched transmission. With all the implements available for the Furguson System a loader is useful , but almost redundant. Just one more thought, a loader puts more strain on the front end bearings especally the axel pivot bearing. As far as safety is concerend ALWAYS carry the bucket as low as possable to keep the center of gravity low to prevent a rollover. MF makes a ROPS kit for these older tractors if it is to be used on a regular basis this is a good investment. Good Luck with your Fergie
Bob L Somerset PA

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Bob L

05-02-2001 20:46:15




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 Re: Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DavePA, 05-01-2001 06:59:36  
I have a TO30 with a sunshine loader. One of the problems that I have is VERY hard steering. My loader was "enginnered" to take hydraulic power off of the front of the crankshaft.this allows operation independant of the clutched transmission. With all the implements available for the Furguson System a loader is useful , but almost redundant. Just one more thought, a loader puts more strain on the front end bearings especally the axel pivot bearing. As far as safety is concerend ALWAYS carry the bucket as low as possable to keep the center of gravity low to prevent a rollover. MF makes a ROPS kit for these older tractors if it is to be used on a regular basis this is a good investment. Good Luck with your Fergie
Bob L Somerset PA

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Bob L

05-02-2001 20:45:50




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 Re: Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to DavePA, 05-01-2001 06:59:36  
I have a TO30 with a sunshine loader. One of the problems that I have is VERY hard steering. My loader was "enginnered" to take hydraulic power off of the front of the crankshaft.this allows operation independant of the clutched transmission. With all the implements available for the Furguson System a loader is useful , but almost redundant. Just one more thought, a loader puts more strain on the front end bearings especally the axel pivot bearing. As far as safety is concerend ALWAYS carry the bucket as low as possable to keep the center of gravity low to prevent a rollover. MF makes a ROPS kit for these older tractors if it is to be used on a regular basis this is a good investment. Good Luck with your Fergie
Bob L Somerset PA

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Jay

05-06-2001 15:47:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Anyone have any expirience with a loader on a TO-35? in reply to Bob L, 05-02-2001 20:45:50  
Hi Bob,
I have a Ferguson TO35 with a Shawnee bucket and backhoe.
With the bucket loaded it is indeed hard to steer and so I use the wheel brakes to assist. Before I started doing that, I noticed the front tires would appear to be almost 'beside' the wheels. It was probably a miracle they didn't pop right off. I've also learned to extend the backhoe a little to take some weight off the front end when I have to make turns in sand etc, with a loaded bucket. Doing that one pay attention to the swing of the backhoe while turning as it would surely make a mess of anything it hit.
Regards,
Jay

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