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Tom Smith

05-13-2003 06:15:38

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About 4 months ago I came onto this website with questions about my tractor. Some of you might remember me as the guy with the Mystery Machine, or the guy with carb problems. Well I finally have the mystery machine running. I took the advice of one of you guys and sent the Carb out to get professionally rebuilt. And After I filled the gas tank up and a couple of cranks later it was alive. I would like to thank everyone for their insite and help with my problem. The only thing is, I still do not know what I have year or make. There is no plate by the steering wheel with a serial or model number. I have located several " HF " and a series of numbers on the frame and case. Is there anyway of telling what it is off of those markings? Any help as always is greatly appreciated. I would like to know what it is for proper restoration.

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Tom

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badgerwy

05-14-2003 16:03:04

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Re: An update.... in reply to Tom Smith, 05-13-2003 06:15:38

tom i ran out of room so i will pick up where i left off ....the number should be something like 09 12 49 this is just an example this is the month,day.year the casting was made if nothing there give me a hollar i got another place you can look....also ive only seen the numbers on the te and to 20s i have a TO 30 that does not have these numbers so maybe the 30s didnt have the numbers...take care and good luck to ya..... ..Badger

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Tom Smith

05-15-2003 06:40:02

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Re: Re: An update.... in reply to badgerwy, 05-14-2003 16:03:04

I will check for that other plate, I saw some other numbers by the dipstick Above that TO-4024 number so I will look when I get home. I will let you know what I find. Thanks for all the help.
Tom

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badgerwy

05-14-2003 15:55:26

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Re: An update.... in reply to Tom Smith, 05-13-2003 06:15:38

Howdy Tom im going to try and help ya find out the year your fergie was made.on the right side of your tractor is a round plate with 6 bolts holding it on. it is also where your dipstick is located. followin me so far?....above the plate is a number i think the number is 4024 ...im going by memory...grin above this number is a HF if you find these look about 3 inches to the left of them.there should be 2 numbers in the casting one above the other.one should be a date

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Tom Smith

05-13-2003 06:19:47

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Re: An update.... in reply to Tom Smith, 05-13-2003 06:15:38

Also, this is a four speed, and you start it buy pushing the shifter directly up from reverse if thats any help. When I go home today I will get all the numbers off of the tractor and post them.

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James, UK

05-13-2003 06:40:03

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Re: Re: An update.... in reply to Tom Smith, 05-13-2003 06:19:47

Glad you've got it running again - bet it sounds good.

From your description, you have a TE(?) or TO-20 or TO-30. Most likely a TO, but it could have been a TEA,or TED, TEE, or a host of other options.

Do you have a Contintental engine (engine number begins Z and then 120 or 129? If 120 then you have a TO-20, if 129, you have a TO-30 I think - if what I have learned about the differences between 'yours' and 'ours' is correct.

Someone will put me right if I'm wrong, I am sure (grin).

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Tom Smith

05-13-2003 09:25:00

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Re: Re: Re: An update.... in reply to James, UK, 05-13-2003 06:40:03

I am 95% sure that it is a Z120 Continental engine.

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Jeff Miller

05-13-2003 10:32:39

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Re: Re: Re: Re: An update.... in reply to Tom Smith, 05-13-2003 09:25:00

If you have a Z120 engine then you either have a TE-20 or a TO-20.

TE's were made in england and shipped here until the TO plant in Detroit opened. To tell the difference look at the electronics. If you have a lucus generator then you have a TE if it is a Delco then it is a TO.

Either way the T-20 are about the same and have the same manuals. As the minor differences are handeled as seperate paragraphs in the manuals.

Happy Tractoring.

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Tom Smith

05-13-2003 12:51:59

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: An update.... in reply to Jeff Miller, 05-13-2003 10:32:39

Thanks for the help guys. Just one more request, how do I find out what year it is and what color(s) do I paint it?

Thanks again
tom

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James, UK

05-14-2003 00:07:48

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: An update.... in reply to Tom Smith, 05-13-2003 12:51:59

Dating it precisely can only be done off the serial number on the plate by the steering wheel (the one you don't have!!)

Colour is Ferguson grey - someone here will have a suitable NAPA reference for you - you want a light grey, not the later dark grey that was applied to the 135/165 and later engine and transmissions.

Don't worry too much about the shade of grey - a line up of TE20s over here looks like a swatch from a Pantone colour reference chart!!

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Tom Smith

05-14-2003 07:10:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: An update.... in reply to James, UK, 05-14-2003 00:07:48

Thanks for all the help so far, I was at a meeting late last night and forgot to get the numbers off of the case, but I seem to Remember that one of the numbers was something like: HF TO24. If that is any help in figuring out what it is than hopefully someone will know a little more about it.
Thanks Tom

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Tom Smith

05-14-2003 17:08:48

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: An update.... in reply to Tom Smith, 05-14-2003 07:10:42

Sorry the number I gave earlier was wrong, I am at home and i just pulled these numbers off of the tractor:
HF TO-4024(underneath the seat on the side of the case)
TO-7006
TO-4013-A(on left rear axle side) TO-4012-A(on right rear axle side)
Z120 A600 CWC A99(on the engine block)

Hope this might help anyone trying to conform that this is a TO-20

Thanks Tom

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