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Masseyharrisnut

01-26-2023 20:09:56




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Got the fan hub all loosened up and working good. Put a new fan belt on and all new rad hoses. New alternator as well. Running good with no leaks although Im concerned about the rad. May have to change it out. Time will tell. Grandson was down on the weekend and grampa took him out to the garage to show him his surprise and was he ever excited and happy. Grampa finally has an orange tractor. His favorite color. Every thing seems to be working good but Im not sure about the belt pulley. The pto works fine but the belt pulley does not turn. Cant find a lever or way to engage it. Maybe there is something wrong internally ??

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DrAllis

01-29-2023 04:29:29




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-26-2023 20:09:56  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Yep. Some thought they were modern when they were new !!



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Mark-Ia

01-28-2023 06:17:52




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-26-2023 20:09:56  
You can remove that belt pulley completely and install a steel cover to block off the hole. I think I have one on a parts tractor with a bad motor.



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Masseyharrisnut

01-28-2023 06:39:55




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Mark-Ia, 01-28-2023 06:17:52  
Hi Mark. I have that cover on a parts tractor here as well. I might put it on but kinda like the looks of these old tractors with the belt pulley on. Thanks.



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cleddy

01-28-2023 14:47:38




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-28-2023 06:39:55  
You can put it in and let it turn all the time when driving and running??? I saw a Massey-Harris once with the pulley running thru a parade and still wonder if runs ALL the time without the option to diengage. I would replace or repair that broken pulley for safety reasons-No one should be near it but a jagged pulley is just waiting to grab something??We had a added feature on a WD where the Belt pulley could be engaged-Disengaged with a Knob similar to the PTO knob? Never could find out who made the addition?

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Pete76NYPa

01-29-2023 02:58:13




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to cleddy, 01-28-2023 14:47:38  
two cylinder Johnnies have their belt pulley spinning whenever the clutch is engaged also!



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Masseyharrisnut

01-28-2023 18:32:24




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to cleddy, 01-28-2023 14:47:38  
When I find a good one I will replace it. Till then Ill just leave it in the neutral position. Some models of Massey Harris run all the time and some dont. Thanks for the response.



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Hoenes

02-01-2023 22:24:47




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-28-2023 18:32:24  
I have a good belt pulley assembly you can have. Not sure where your at. Shipping would be expensive. { 129 pounds, someone said } My email should be open. Well, maybe a 12 pack.



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Masseyharrisnut

02-02-2023 18:40:59




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Hoenes, 02-01-2023 22:24:47  
Southern Alberta is where Im located. Thanks for the offer.



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Hoenes

02-01-2023 22:31:13




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Hoenes, 02-01-2023 22:24:47  
Wrong weight. Probably around 50.



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J Hamilton

01-28-2023 16:06:11




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to cleddy, 01-28-2023 14:47:38  
I don't know about a Massey, but on my Case tractors the pulleys turn anytime the clutch is engaged. My VAC is the exception and can be disengaged similar to the Allis



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Masseyharrisnut

01-28-2023 18:29:26




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to J Hamilton, 01-28-2023 16:06:11  
Some models of Massey Harris run all the time and some dont.



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Tramway Guy

01-27-2023 10:03:36




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-26-2023 20:09:56  
When my dad traded in our WC for a WD, the dealers mechanic took the old belt pulley from the WC and set the mesh to the WD, and made scribe marks for us to use from then on.



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4wdtom

01-27-2023 05:46:58




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-26-2023 20:09:56  
As Bob said below you have to find the hole in the belt pulley housing that gives you good engagement, just a little backlash or play. Rotate the housing to find different holes for more or less engagement, moving the housing in or out for more or less engagement in the different holes. Gears are lubed by the hydraulic oil so it should be up to the full mark. If you remove the belt pulley hydraulic oil will run out the hole. There is a stamped sheet metal plug that blocks the hole if you don't want the belt pulley in. For loaders it may cause interference. It does with the AC Freeman loader according to the manual for the loader.

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Masseyharrisnut

01-27-2023 07:40:30




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to 4wdtom, 01-27-2023 05:46:58  
Thank you 4wdtom. There are a couple of pieces broke out of the pulley so I suspect the loader interference has happened.



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Traditional Farmer

01-27-2023 16:45:12




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-27-2023 07:40:30  
The belt pulley will bend the loader cylinder if the loader is raised all the way up.



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4wdtom

01-27-2023 09:35:05




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-27-2023 07:40:30  
No problem, I like what you are doing with the 45. You might also want to check and possibly change the oil in the final drives. Many don't think of them and sometimes the oil is ancient and thick and nasty. You need to remove the pan to change it but there is a level/filler plug where you can fairly easily check it.



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Masseyharrisnut

01-27-2023 10:42:27




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to 4wdtom, 01-27-2023 09:35:05  
When I drained the other oils out of the tractor I checked the level on the final drives. They where down a bit but the oil looked pretty good still. I will be changing them as well at some point. I pushed the belt pulley in and it meshed with the gears good and worked fine. Can I assume that its okay to pull it back out to where it was when not using the belt pulley so that it is not turning all the time when using the tractor. Next step is to get it to town and put it on a dyno to see how good the engine is and power wash it and wait for the first vintage tractor pull in our area. Thank you to all the people on this site for the helpful posts so far on this project. It is appreciated. This picture just showing damage from a front end loader as suggested by a post on this site.
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4wdtom

01-27-2023 14:52:53




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-27-2023 10:42:27  
Yes, you can disengage the belt pulley again. Maybe want to make a mark where it is to make it easier to put back into gear in the future if you wanted. I see you have wheel weights. You might want to know if the rear tires are loaded and if a scale is nearby weigh the tractor before you go for the pulling so you aren't surprised at weigh in. Then it will come down to balance, how much weight you may want one the front to hold it down. Keep us informed whey you do get to pull.

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Masseyharrisnut

01-27-2023 15:15:51




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to 4wdtom, 01-27-2023 14:52:53  
Hi 4wdtom. Thank you. I figured that would be okay. When I have the tractor in town I will be weighing it on a certified scale. I also plan on changing out the rear tires for the ones on my spare parts tractor before I do that. They are in better shape. If theres fluid in them I will get rid of that to. You wouldnt happen to know how much the weights weigh for these tractors. Thanks again.



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4wdtom

01-28-2023 06:06:43




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-27-2023 15:15:51  
I don't know the weight of the wheel weights but rear wheel weights usually weigh around 140 lbs. On the chipped belt pulley, probably not form the loader as the chips are broken from the inside of the pulley. Maybe from trying to pry it out with a bar? Who knows. And at this point it doesn't matter.



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Bob Bancroft

01-27-2023 16:21:12




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-27-2023 15:15:51  
Again, if I remember correctly, I weighed several, and they averaged 129#.



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Masseyharrisnut

01-27-2023 17:16:34




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Bob Bancroft, 01-27-2023 16:21:12  
Thank you Bob.



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Bob Bancroft

01-27-2023 06:02:55




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to 4wdtom, 01-27-2023 05:46:58  
Dad used to have the tube which was the storage for the pulley. The tractor plug was stored in the end of the tube when the pulley was mounted on the tractor. I recall reading somewhere that when the correct hole was located, a prick punch mark should be made so the correct hole wasn't lost.



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Masseyharrisnut

01-27-2023 07:44:39




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Bob Bancroft, 01-27-2023 06:02:55  
Thank you Bob. I read something in my diesel WD45 manual that talked about the dealer making marks to get proper alignment. Ill check that out.



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J Hamilton

01-27-2023 02:56:10




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-26-2023 20:09:56  
To engage the belt pulley, there is a set screw bolt with a nut under it, should be on the top behind the pulley, that you loosen and push the pulley in towards the frame. You may have to rock the pulley to align the gears, then tighten the setscrew bolt. For safety do this with the engine off!



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Masseyharrisnut

01-27-2023 07:47:04




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to J Hamilton, 01-27-2023 02:56:10  
Hi J Hamilton. Heading out to the garage this morning to check out the info you have provided. Thank you for your help.



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Bob Bancroft

01-27-2023 02:51:35




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Masseyharrisnut, 01-26-2023 20:09:56  
The set screw is removed and the whole assembly is slid in until the gears mesh. There are a series of holes for the set screw in the engaged position to allow for proper gear lash. Typically you just slide it straight in, and the hole will come into view. Then the pulley will be live, and will only stop when the engine clutch is disengaged.



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Masseyharrisnut

01-27-2023 07:49:35




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 Re: WD45 continued. in reply to Bob Bancroft, 01-27-2023 02:51:35  
Thank you Bob. Checking that out this morning.



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